[kj] OT:Ministry

Tim Bucknall tim.bucknall at btinternet.com
Wed May 3 05:30:10 EDT 2006


amen, i don't bother with anything after "the mind...."
we don't need anymore full ahead metal bands
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
To: "'Alex Smith'" <vassifer at earthlink.net>; "'A list about all things 
Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: RE: [kj] OT:Ministry


>> I'd love to hear Al try something new again.
>
> Here here!
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alex Smith
> Sent: 02 May 2006 22:06
> To: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!); 'TB'; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
> Subject: RE: [kj] OT:Ministry
>
>
>
> I think what first attracted me to Ministry was their gradual swing 
> towards
> the aggressive. I still think WITH SYMPATHY (which, I believe, Jourgensen
> still refers to as "the abortion") is a great record (albeit VERY much of
> its silly era). But I think the transitional albums between their
> synth-pop/dance music period and their current none-more-black very metal
> noise pollution phase (which continues today) are the most interesting
> records in their catalog. I'm talking specifically about TWITCH and THE 
> LAND
> OF RAPE AND HONEY. As far as I'm concerned, they haven't really brought
> anything new to the table since PSALM 69. Some fine, heavy, aggro moments,
> but I miss their experimental spark. I'd love to hear Al try something new
> again.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
>>Sent: May 2, 2006 4:23 PM
>>To: 'TB' <partyslammer at socal.rr.com>, "'A list about all things Killing
> Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
>>Subject: RE: [kj] OT:Ministry
>>
>>Ministry are getting very self-referential these days, which does put me
> off
>>the new album a bit. My last fave was Filthpig & they've been patchy since
>>then, for my tastes. Liked Houses of the Mole moreso as it was, well, less
>>patchy. I enjoy Ministry's version of metal, but prefer them doing
> something
>>more interesting!
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of TB
>>Sent: 02 May 2006 21:14
>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT:Ministry
>>
>>
>>"Steve Hackett" wrote:
>>
>>
>>New Ministry cd arrived on my mat today - direct from Big Als shop and a
>>signed poster came as a separate delivery FOC,all the way from the US of A
>>within 24 hrs of release - SEE JAZ!! Yer GoP could have been here too if
> you
>>could be arsed!!
>>
>>btw its a damn fine album!
>>
>>+++++++++++++++++
>>
>>I picked it up this morning and "Rio Grande Blood" is as I expected, a
>>pretty relentless, over the top slam-fest that's about as anti-GW Bush/US
>>government as it could possibly be with songs like Ass Clown, Yellow Cake
>>and of course, The Great Satan. Some funny lyrics in places but the
> sameness
>>of the music kinda wears thin after a few songs and one song questioning
>>"who" was responsible for 9/11 (did planes *really* crash into the WTC?")
> is
>>just plain obnoxiously stupid. I like Ministry a lot, but their output 
>>over
>>the last decade has been real spotty, imo.
>>
>>On the other hand, the new Tool album right outta the shrink-wrap is
>>excellent. Although I saw them way back in late '92 opening for Ministry, 
>>I
>>never got into them and up 'til today, never picked up any of their 
>>albums.
>>Not just a few good songs, but a great "complete" album from start to
>>finish.
>>
>>T.B.
>>
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