[kj] Hated footy players past n present

Mon Mar 27 09:40:49 EST 2006

Interesting thoughts there, but I think there are few problems.

  For a start, where's your evidence that no-one has seen these threats? He could have shown them to many people and there would be no way for you to know it.

  How do you know he didn't contact the Swiss police? Death threat cases are notoriously hard to investigate; an anonymous letter arrives from London- where do you go from there? How do you find the writer?

  Retiring and not speaking to the media sounds like a fairly sensible response to death threats against you and your family. If you took the threats seriously, then you're not going to continue placing yourself in danger.

  He didn't contact The Sun. He issued a press statement that was published in a great number of media sources.

  As for your final story about the ref forced to move, that's good to hear. It demonstrates precisely the lengths some football fans will go to if they think they're team has been cheated. More than one website claimed to have access to and publish the ref's e-mail address (which wasn't hard to find, apparently) and phone number so there were certainly ways to get the threats to him.

  It all comes down to whether you think there are Chelsea fans capable of this. You obviously don't, but we know there are England fans willing to do it. Hell, the ref is usually the least popular person on the pitch. Is it really that unbelieveable that a handful of aggrieved fans would take out their anger on the ref?

  It doesn't matter what team they support. Even Chelsea is guaranteed to have some psychotic supporters.

FLIGHT BRINGER <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
  P.S.
If he had been threatened and he took the threats seriously and he feared 
for his life, Do you think that he should have
A. Informed the police and asked for protection or...................
B. Ignored the Police and everyone in Authority and Contacted The Sun 
newspaper, the same newspaper that published a European Refs E-mail address 
, home telephone number and the location of his house, after the Ref gave a 
wrong decision that got England knocked out the Euros two years previously? 
The same newspaper that told its readers to "tell the Ref what they thought 
of him" and the ref received over 20 000 abusive, threatening e-mails from 
The Suns readers and had to move home.

Would you have chosen A or B ?

>From: "FLIGHT BRINGER" 
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!)"
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: RE: [kj] Hated footy players past n present
>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:41:33 +0100
>
>Where are these death threats? How come ONLY the Ref has seen them? How 
>come there was no criminal investigation?( its illegal to threaten someone 
>with death). Why did the ref retire and refuse to talk about it ever again? 
>Is it a coincidence that A European Ref has been banned for match fixing? 
>Is it a coincidence that a Scandinavian Ref is under investigation for 
>accepting bribes from a far-east betting syndicate and been suspended?, 
>and they say that it could just be the tip of the iceberg.
> There is more to the story than meets the eye. Chelsea fans have never 
>been accused of sending death threats. Frisk did say something about his 
>kids coming home from school and saying that someone wants to kill him and 
>quit footbal beacuse of it!!!!!!
> The truth will come out one day
>
>
>
>>From: Jim Harper 
>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>>band!)"
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>
>>Subject: RE: [kj] Hated footy players past n present
>>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:19:58 +0100 (BST)
>>
>>Except of course of the fans that *did* send death threats to the ref. 
>>Unless the ref's own statements are just media manipulation too.
>>
>>FLIGHT BRINGER wrote: The recent so called 
>>death threats to the Ref (Barca) were just a
>>distortion of the truth. Some Australian bloke on a chat room wrote after
>>the match(tongue-in-cheek) "Where do we send the death threats to? Same
>>place as last year". Sun Headline next day "Fans send death threats". The
>>headline had no connection with the truth what-so-ever.
>>
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