[kj] kj self parody ?

[jpwhkj at aol.com]

I don't know how other people take them.  I can only tell you that I 
see some quite strong and sharp criticisms and American / Western 
culture in both programmes - but yes, they are cartoons, rather than 
current affairs programmes!



-----Original Message-----
From: FLIGHT BRINGER <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:21:41 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] kj self parody ?

   Oh, so the cartoons are a critique of American lifestyles? Oh I see, 
and there was me taking it at face value.
  But do people in general see them as being critique , or do people 
watch it and think." Yeah, all wars are bad apart 
 from.................." and "Rap videos are good 
because...............".

  "Are you saying that cartoons *can't* be intelligent? Have you read 
Maus and/or Persepolis?*

  I suppose it depends on how it is perceived , do people perceive it as 
being objectional or something to adhere too? No & no.
  To me an intelligent programme would be about finding a solution to 
the impending Iranian problem, not a character who only has a few 
slogans taking the place of speech.

 >From: jpwhkj at aol.com
  >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
 >To: gathering at misera.net
 >Subject: Re: [kj] kj self parody ?
 >Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 04:41:38 -0500
 >
  >Actually, I think that the point of Bart's comment was to lampoon the 
 >simplistic view of history that labels wars "good" or "bad" - hence 
the >inclusion of Star Wars.
 >
  >Ditto Beavis's comment (or maybe it was Butthead) that he likes Rap 
videos >'cos they have lots of chicks getting naked. Quite an accurate 
critique of >rap videos, in fact.
 >
  >Are you saying that cartoons *can't* be intelligent? Have you read 
Maus >and/or Persepolis?
 >
 >Jamie
 >

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