[kj] SOAD Drummer

Leigh Newton angrytomhanks at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 2 11:53:20 EST 2006 

Introduce Yourself would definately be twice as good
if Patton were singing on it but i still love Chuck.
His melodies always ruled and his lyrics were totally
weird and cool. Too bad he has to always live in
Patton's shadow. Speaking of Patton, i think he lost
the plot around "California". He hasn't really put out
anything essential since then, except for maybe the
Dillinger Escape Plan EP he sang on.

Leigh


--- Giorgio Tebaldi <gftebaldi at yahoo.de> wrote:

> "Introduce Yourself" could have been perfect if
> Chuck Mosley hadn't sung on it - his voice his just
> too dull! You can love him or hate him, but Mike
> Patton was the best thing that could happen to FNM. 
>    
>   
> Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com> schrieb:
>   His parts were definately generic but like i said,
> they were never really about guitar. It's just one
> more element that adds to the mix and if it were
> flashier or weirder or whatever, it would ruin the
> thing that made their music so appealing to me when
> i
> first heard it. The tribal drums and repetative
> parts
> and droning keyboards. All beautiful and simple. My
> favourite Faith No More album is Introduce Yourself.
> 
> Leigh
> 
> --- Jim Harper wrote:
> 
> > 'Generic' is the only word that springs to my mind
> > when I hear a fair amount of Jim Martin's guitar
> > parts. 'KFAD' and 'AOTY' had more bad songs on
> their
> > other albums certainly, but half of 'Angel Dust'
> is
> > littered with Martin's just-about-good-enough
> > metalisms ('Jizzlobber', for example), making him
> > the weakest link on the album. 
> > 
> > Jim.
> > 
> > Leigh Newton wrote:
> > No waaaaaaaaaay! Well, yes, what he played was
> > pretty
> > standard, but the songs weren't guitar driven when
> > he
> > was in the band. It was all the instruments
> meshing
> > together in a big stew. You could tell that the
> > songs
> > were written without much input from Jim and that
> > he'd
> > sort of add his stuff at the end of the process.
> It
> > all made for an amazing sound. The stuff they did
> > after was a lot more guitar driven and sounded a
> lot
> > more generic. Plus, i think Angel Dust was the
> last
> > album where they all really gave a shit. The next
> 2
> > just sound like going through the motions.
> > Especially
> > Album of the Year. There's a couple of amazing
> songs
> > on there, but you can just hear the ambivilence
> > inbetween the notes. Plus, shit like Collision and
> > Mouth to Mouth and Carhalo Voador and Take This
> > Bottle
> > and Coocoo for Caca are all unforgiveably bad.
> > 
> > Leigh
> > 
> > 
> > --- Alexander Smith wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Meh. It was standard metal power-chordage. Their
> > > work got 
> > > significantly more interesting once he was gone.
> > > 
> > > Alex in NYC
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:03 PM, Leigh Newton wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The only good FNM stuff was the Jim Martin
> > stuff.
> > > > There was nothing wrong with his playing at
> all.
> > > It
> > > > was beautiful in its simplicity.
> > > >
> > > > Leigh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Jim Harper wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I believe FNM felt in retrospect that Geordie
> > was
> > > >> very much into his own style, which was
> > different
> > > >> from their own. FNM didn't turn him down;
> both
> > > >> parties felt the union wouldn't be best for
> > them.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jim Martin was tolerable at best, but neither
> > > as
> > > >> talented or interesting as Trey Spruance or
> Jon
> > > >> Hudson.
> > > >>
> > > >> Alex Smith wrote:
> > > >> You could be right. A bit rich of FNM to
> > > claim
> > > >> that Geordie could only play in one style.
> I'd
> > > >> hardly call Jim Martin a virtuoso by ANY
> > stretch
> > > of
> > > >> the imagination.
> > > >>
> > > >> Alex in NYC
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Mike Cooper
> > > >> Sent: Mar 1, 2006 3:58 PM
> > > >> To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things
> > Killing
> > > >> Joke (the band!)"
> > > >> Subject: Re: [kj] SOAD Drummer
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I always thought Geordie had a audition /
> > > or
> > > >> even joined FNM for a short while but they
> > > claimed
> > > >> he could only play in one style and wasn;t
> > > suitable
> > > >> - but I could be wrong - lnog time ago.
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: Alex Smith
> > > >> To: James Osborne ; A list about all things
> > > >> Killing Joke (the band!)
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:29 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [kj] SOAD Drummer
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Geordie was briefly rumored to have been
> > mulling
> > > >> over an invitation to join Faith No More when
> > Jim
> > > >> Martin left.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ale xin NYC
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: James Osborne
> > > >> Sent: Mar 1, 2006 2:21 PM
> > > >> To: Alex Smith , "A list about all things
> > Killing
> > > >> Joke (the band!)"
> > > >> Subject: Re: [kj] SOAD Drummer
> > > >>
> > > >> Geordie and Faith No More...what?
> > > >>
> > > >>
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