[kj] Kerrang!/Hosannas/KJ2003

[Alex Smith]

I was somewhat dissapointed by BRIGHTER when it came out, but NIGHTIME is still flawless to my ears (and way, way better than HOSANNAS).

Alex in NYC


-----Original Message-----
>From: jpwhkj at aol.com
>Sent: Mar 1, 2006 4:35 AM
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang!/Hosannas/KJ2003
>
>They *are* amazing albums, but I was disappointed by both of them at 
>the time, because they were clearly seeking a softer, more commercially 
>acceptable sound - a path which led unerringly to Outside the Gate.  In 
>the nineties, the more industrial sound became more commercially 
>acceptable, and KJ have produced albums that, whilst having some fine 
>moments, are far more mainstream than the first 3 or 4 albums were.
>
>I think the quality of the music on Brighter and Night Time is 
>outstanding, and I look forward to the remixed Brighter in particular...
>
>Jamie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Sent: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:01:47 -0800 (PST)
>Subject: Re: [kj] Kerrang!/Hosannas/KJ2003
>
>  Well, both Nighttime and Brighter sound extremely
>commercial (or they did when they were released) and
>they're both amazing. I don't think it's pandering if
>the music you're writing is still quality. Which, i
>think, KJ2003 is. For the most part. BUt that's just
>me.
>
>Leigh
>
>--- god botherer <acroastic at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, so nu-metal wasn't the best quick reference term
>> for a certain flavour
>> that was added to KJ2003, but I was trying to
>> describe the extent of the
>> pandering to, let's say, a particular sector of the
>> market - surely you know
>> what I mean.
>>
>> I now see that I'm not alone in my opinion:
>>
>> +++
>>
>> Killing Joke frontman Jaz Coleman has revealed to
>> Kerrang! that the
>> post-punk superheroes have returned to their roots
>> on their forthcoming,
>> 13th studio album.
>>
>> Fans should expect a less commercial-sounding
>> offering from 'Hosannas From
>> The Basements Of Hell', the follow up to 2003's
>> 'Killing Joke', after
>> guitarist Geordie Walker registered his
>> dissatisfaction with the band's last
>> album.
>>
>> "Geordie wasn't happy with the last one we did
>> because he thought it sounded
>> too commercial," Coleman admits. "This one's the
>> antithesis."
>>
>> +++
>>
>> - and all the better for that, I reckon. And it goes
>> to show that Geordie is
>> or should be the supreme arbiter of what goes.
>>
>> There's fact for you Leigh.
>>
>>
>> gb
>>
>>
>> >From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
>> (the band!)"
>> ><gathering at misera.net>
>> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>> band!)"
>> ><gathering at misera.net>
>> >Subject: Re: [kj] Hosannas 1 KJ2003 0
>> >Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:36:07 -0500
>> >
>> >Is Nu-Metal even Nu-metal anymore? Seems about as
>> timely a term in  2006 as
>> >shoegazing and/or baggy.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Alex in NYC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Leigh Newton wrote:
>> >
>> >>I reckon that 0.00000000000000% of KJ2003 is
>> nu-metal.
>> >>Fact, not opinion.
>> >>
>> >>Leigh
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>--- god botherer <acroastic at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>This new stuff pisses all over the cartoon
>> nu-metal
>> >>>of 2003. This is
>> >>>glorious. I'm hearing TRUE Killing Joke again and
>> >>>it's wonderful!
>> >>>
>> >>>Oddly, the two tracks officially available to
>> check
>> >>>out prior to release,
>> >>>i.e. Implosion and the title track are IMHO the
>> >>>least interesting tracks on
>> >>>the album, but still pretty fair.
>> >>>
>> >>>Here's a few things missing from the album:
>> >>>
>> >>>shit Youth tampering
>> >>>crap production
>> >>>pandering to the Kerrang audience (well, maybe a
>> >>>bit)
>> >>>lukewarm drumming
>> >>>weak tracks
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Concentrating all the efforts of the personnel on
>> >>>this project, and living
>> >>>and playing together lots like a real group
>> should,
>> >>>having a shit hot
>> >>>drummer and turning up the volume on (still) the
>> >>>most extraordinary sound
>> >>>these ears know of (that beatiful Geordie guitar)
>> >>>have all paid off - and
>> >>>they've remembered to make it danceable!
>> >>>
>> >>>Above all, the genuine passion shines through,
>> and I
>> >>>get those goose pimples
>> >>>again which have been so rare since 1991 (with
>> the
>> >>>honourable exception of
>> >>>Aeon and one or two other bits from Pandemonium
>> and
>> >>>Democracy).
>> >>>
>> >>>Hope when I buy the real thing Geordie doesn't
>> get
>> >>>turned down in the mix
>> >>>(again).
>> >>>
>> >>>Whaddyareckon?
>> >>>
>> >>>gb
>> >>>
>> >>>
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