[kj] OT: power or prayer

fluw fluwdot at earthlink.net
Fri Feb 3 10:37:51 EST 2006 

*fair enough, sounds real good, let's go swimming and have the current 
take us away. without being a flying fish, how does one jump out of the 
pool and into the river!!!!!!!!
*
iPat wrote:

> True Religion:
>
> Do you know what religion is? It is not the chant, it is not in the 
> performance of ritual, it is not in the worship of tin gods or stone 
> images, it is not in the temples and churches, it is not in the 
> reading of the Bible or the Koran, it is not in the repeating of a 
> sacred name or in the following of some other superstition invented by 
> men. None of this is religion.
>
> Religion is the feeling of goodness, that love which is like the 
> river, living, moving everlastingly. In that state you will find there 
> comes a moment when there is no longer any search at all; and this 
> ending of search is the beginning of something totally different. The 
> search for God, for truth, the feeling of being completely good
>
> —not the cultivation of goodness, of humility, but the seeking out of 
> something beyond the inventions and tricks of the mind, which means 
> having a feeling for that something, living in it, being it —that is 
> true religion. But you can do that only when you leave the pool you 
> have dug for yourself and go out into the river of life. Then life has 
> an astonishing way of taking care of you, because then there is no 
> taking care on your part. Life carries you where it will because you 
> are part of itself; then there is no problem of security, of what 
> people say or don't say, and that is the beauty of life. : )
>
> On 2/2/06, *gregslawson at aol.com <mailto:gregslawson at aol.com>* 
> <gregslawson at aol.com <mailto:gregslawson at aol.com>> wrote:
>
>     All religions make me sick
>     All religions make me wanna throw up
>     They claim that they have the answers
>     They don't even know the questions
>     They claim that they have the truth
>     They're just a bunch of liars
>     They just want your money
>     They just want your consciousness!
>     --Dead Kennedys 
>      
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Phillipps Marc < Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk
>     <mailto:Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>>
>     To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
>     <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
>     Sent: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:27:23 -0000
>     Subject: RE: [kj] OT: power or prayer
>
>>Does God find the phrase 
>>'World Peace' ambiguous or something
>
>There are a lot of children in developing countries very thankful for those
>peas though . . 
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nicholas fitzpatrick [SMTP:gasw30 at hotmail.com <mailto:gasw30%40hotmail.com>]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:13 PM
>> To:   gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering%40misera.net>
>> Subject:  RE: [kj] OT: power or prayer
>> 
>> The Rev. Lesley de Pomerai says in this article about fighting crime with 
>> prayer: 'God wants us to be specific so his power can be targeted.'
>> 
>> But when I was a kid I always used to pray for a new bike. A Raleigh Racer
>> 
>> with 12 gears. Blue. How more specific can you get? I never got it. And
>> what 
>> about my prayers for World Peace. Not answered. Does God find the phrase 
>> 'World Peace' ambiguous or something.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com <mailto:fatpotanga%40gmail.com>>
>> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>> ><gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering%40misera.net>>
>> >To: The Gathering <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering%40misera.net>>
>> >Subject: [kj] OT: power or prayer
>> >Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:31:19 +0000
>> >
>> >This made me smile:
>> >In fact, I'm thinking it could be the premise for one of those quirky
>> >English films with Jim Broadbent & Pete Postlethwait, that no one goes to
>> >see.
>> >
>> >God Joins Police in Fight Against Evil
>> >
>> >Police have added another weapon to their crime-fighting arsenal - the 
>> >power
>> >of prayer.
>> >
>> >In what is seen by some as a bizarre attempt to stop crime levels rising
>> to
>> >biblical proportions, police n Nottingham have asked the city's
>> >congregations to direct their prayers at crime hot-spots. The results
>> have
>> >been remarkable, according to Inspector Alan Stuart. The inspector, a lay
>> >preacher, said after parishioners were asked to direct their prayers at
>> >youth crime in the suburb of Arnold, the number of people aged 17 and
>> under
>> >arrest fell from 130 in 1997 to 80 in 1999. 'The only thing we are doing
>> >differently in Arnold is praying,' he said. While admitting prayers may
>> be
>> >an unusual approach to preventing crime, Inspector Stuart said the
>> results
>> >spoke for themselves. 'We already have anecdotal evidence that problems
>> in
>> >the shopping area have calmed and a shed burglar was apprehended right 
>> >after
>> >a prayer session about shed break-ins,' he said. 'The Lord is certainly
>> on
>> >the move and this is only the start.' Local vicar the Rev. Lesley de 
>> >Pomerai
>> >described the project as unique, adding: 'God wants us to be specific so 
>> >his
>> >power can be targeted.'
>> >
>> >But Darwinist Richard Dawkins was sceptical about the approach. 'If the
>> >police of Nottingham are as gullible as this, it's a wonder they ever
>> solve
>> >any crimes' he said.
>> >
>> >London Metro - March 2000
>> >
>> >
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