[kj] Pleasure/Pain , One Word.............

Robert Mallett robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk
Wed Dec 13 03:37:28 EST 2006

this doesn't surprise me. one of the reasons i got into the Joke (apart from
liking them) was that no one encouraged me to and most people at the time
hated them. well, they were wrong and we were right.

Bob
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From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
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There was a social science experiment done a year or so ago that asked:
What makes a song a hit? Not surprisingly, the study found that the peer
pressure factor was a big component -- namely, folks want to listen to
what they perceive everyone else is listening to, whether it's "good"
(subjective) or not.

"A new study reveals that we make our music purchases based partly on
our perceived preferences of others"

http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/060209_hit_songs.html

-Oliver




Leigh Newton wrote:

> Not me. I like what I like based on whether or not my brain determines

> it to be good, not based on how popular or obscure it is.

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Robert Mallett <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>

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> <gathering at misera.net>

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> cos it's their best known tune, and got a hell of a lot of exposure.

> that level of exposure can put one off a song; or it does me anyway. Bob

>

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> *From:* Leigh Newton <mailto:angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

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> Yeeeees, why wouldn't it be?

>

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> From: Robert Mallett <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk

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> i agree entirely. but it depends on the sontent and the spirit,

> does it not? so Change, hell yeah it's catchy. but what about Love

> Like Blood? Is that still catchy bowadays?

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Leigh Newton <mailto:angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 12, 2006 6:03 PM

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> Not a damn thing wrong with a catchy tune. "Change", for instance.

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Robert Mallett <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk

> <mailto:robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>>

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> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:24:47 PM

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> Bit rushed when I wrote that. What I meant was the 'mass'

> often 'dig the beedles' cos they're told how great they are by

> the media/record labels, and hey the songs are catchy. That's

> why I hate them and anything like them - it's why punk started

> for fekk's sake.

>

> Consider this:

>

> Beatles Recond Label - Apple

>

> Killing Joke's record label - Malicious Damage.

>

> See?

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Leigh Newton <mailto:angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

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> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:12 PM

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> Why would you let other peoples' opinions determine your own?

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Robert Mallett <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk

> <mailto:robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>>

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> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:00:48 AM

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>

> exactly. don't we all operate on the principle that

> greater appeal normally means extreme shitness, with I

> grant you the odd exception (Hendrix, Stones). The Beatles

> were very huge, and were therefore hugely crap. Right?

>

> Bob

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Rob Horan <mailto:Rob at westwoodassociates.co.uk>

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> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 12, 2006 2:34 PM

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> ‘pop’ is short for popular……..:)

>

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>

>

> Supercoven - Electric Wizard; never charted - criminal

>

>

>

> Bob

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> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:27 PM

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>

> C’mon Bob, there must be a little pop song out

> there somewhere that you give the thumbs up to????????

>

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> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] *On Behalf

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> *Sent:* 12 December 2006 13:22

> *To:* Alex Smith ; A list about all things Killing

> Joke (the band!)

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> Word.............

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>

> it's still shit Alex

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> *From:* Alex Smith

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> *Sent:* Monday, December 11, 2006 8:48 PM

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> Word.............

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>

>

> "Dancing Queen" is fucking dire, but "S.O.S"

> is great (and also the source for the central

> riff from the `Pistols' "Pretty Vacant" --- FACT!)

>

>

>

> Alex in NYC

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Neil Perry

> Sent: Dec 11, 2006 3:01 PM

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> (the band!)"

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> Word.............

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> I like Abba. SOS, Dancing Queen and

> Knowing Me, Knowing You are perfect pop songs.

>

> */Rob/**/ert Mallett

> <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>/* wrote:

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> Corporate MOR shat

>

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> > Jaz likes ABBA. Not for dogs.

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