[kj] Unspeakable Suicide Bomb Bitching

[Alexander Smith]

"Funny how Alex got all pedantic about Jaz being
potentially insulted by being described as a "rock
singer" yet lets the "idiotic blowhard" and "F*ing
babbling old man" descriptions stand!"

I may have called him a blowhard, but I don't believe I used the term 
idiotic, nor did I call him babbling old man.  I merely suggested that 
summing up Jaz's illustrious career as simply a "rock singer" was doing 
him a disservice. By the same token, that doesn't mean that everything 
that comes out of the man's mouth is a bona fide nugget of 
well-reasoned truth.

Your posts are poorly constructed, Dreggs. It's not that I don't want 
to read them -- I do, but try writing in coherent sentences. And make 
sure the sources you're citing are accurate. That'll help your 
otherwise ailing cause.

Alex in NYC



On Thursday, November 17, 2005, at 10:56 AM, Darth Vader wrote:

> Thus moaned Alex in BRA, ad nauseum:
>>>>> In the instance of the "Bloodsport" musings, this
> would be a fair postulation, but in an (arguably)
> candid interview on the DVD? No.
>
> Unspeakable Bitching:
>> Exactly. In a candid interview setting, now you're
> just getting ridiculous and sounding like an idiot.
>
> So Jaz is "an idiot" because you disagree with him?
>
> This seems quite a childish attitude really.
> But who am I to be critical?
>
>> For such a smart (right?) man, he sure is an idiotic
> blowhard and an incompetent communicator.
>
> How can he be both smart & idiotic at the same time?
> Its an oxymoron!
>
> So have any of you Jaz critics acheived as much with
> their lives as him?
>
> Perhaps if suicide bombers bother you so much you
> should take a long look at your own modes of existance
> and ask how you can eradicate the things the lead to
> this happening?
>
>> I can even potentially conceive, in ways similar to
> what iPat has said, what Jaz might even be after when
> he says $hit like this, but it's a big, big stretch.
>
> Clearly one of you needs to interview him and bring up
> these topics for discussion, rather than bitching ad
> nauseum on the internet.
>
> Maybe you could call Jaz an "idiotic blowhard" to his
> face? No doubt a few choice insults would lead to an
> interesting and grown up conversation, and convince
> Jaz to change his mind!
>
> Maybe Ade could take Jaz on an interesting shopping
> expedition to his local Asda/Walmart that he bores us
> with?
>
> Funny how Alex got all pedantic about Jaz being
> potentially insulted by being described as a "rock
> singer" yet lets the "idiotic blowhard" and "F*ing
> babbling old man" descriptions stand!
>
> So Alex, with your expert knowledge, can you tell
> whether Jaz would "bristle" at these slights?
>
> Perhaps a few of you could also waste his time by
> gathering round to call him a "twat." That would be
> such fun, wouldn't it? It's so funny I can't laugh!
>
>> And for someone as worldly as him, he sure expresses
> himself poorly and lazily (also see the taxes etc.
> part in the Bruce interview).
>
> The tax comment does seem unwise, in that maybe it'd
> be better to keep quiet about such subversion rather
> than advertising it to all and sundry. Still if the
> taxman already knows then what difference does it
> make?
>
> Then again:
> "I am a child of folly
>  Now I want my way
>  And I don't know good or bad"
>
> And a$ for whoever it was who judged that Jaz is a
> hypocrite for not paying taxes that is so utterly
> laughable. FOLLOW THE LEADER$!
>
> (Unless the whole country did it, I guess)
>
>> It's all fine and good to stir $hit every now and
> then--that's the rock n' roll way, ha ha--but again,
> he just does it so lazily and irresponsibly...
>
> How does one responsibly stir $hit?
>
> With a $ilver $poon?
>
> "And my sense of humour getting out of hand"
>
>> it really waters down the occasions when he actually
> does have something interesting or well-thought-out to
> say.
>
> Only if you are too blinkered to think for yourself...
>
>> Which reminds me of an area of disappointment for me
> on the last few albums: the lyrics. I actually share
> and/or enjoy quite a lot (though certainly not all) of
> the sentiment in the lyrics on both 2003 and
> Democracy, but he could've done a lot better in terms
> of articulately expressing them.
>
> Think you could do better?
> Go for it!
>
> "So when I start to smile
>  Then the Harlequins will go-go"
>
>> Whereas on BTATS (whether you like it or not), he had
> some pure poetry; and on ExtremitiesDVRE, he had some
> well-expressed rage, and on the first 4 or 5 albums,
> some great minimalist _expression.
>
> Only paragraph here that was worth the effort of
> writing?
>
>> I know he's always talked out of his arse in
> interviews and such,
>
> Now, this is a blatant lie and is slanderous.
>
> In Jaz's defence at this gross generalistaion, an
> interview from 1982 in Flipside fanzine. Maybe its
> online somewhere. It's where I got that quote about
> patriotism tricking those of low mentality.
>
>> but on the last few albums this sort of laziness has
> infiltrated his lyrics, I think, regressing to the
> sort of Jaz-by-numbers routine. F*ing babbling old
> man.
>
> Just like some of you lot, eh?
>
> Actually Jaz is not really an old man yet, to be
> pedantic.
>
> I also think describing Jaz or anyone in Killing Joke
> as lazy is slanderous.
>
> So hop to it Unspeakable, write us a more eloquent
> statement of discontent than "Seeing Red." It can't be
> such hard work can it?
>
> Funny how all gather round to pity poor ol'Jester with
> his cancer, yet when Jaz gets too sick to tour people
> start cursing him.
>
> And you can all sit at your terminals clacking keys
> about the dubious morality of suicide bombers until
> the cows explode, but you aren't changing anything are
> you?
>
> If you are all so damned concerned about it, maybe you
> should be asking yourselves:
>
> Why are there suicide bombers?
>
> What can be done to prevent this phenomenon?
>
>> Damn I like the music though.
>
> Or there'd be no reason to waste your life to reading
> all this tepid bitching...
>
> "And the diamonds sharp you know"
>
>
> Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine
> http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine
>
> Look at grafitti scrawled on the wall:
> Dubya can't catch family friend Bin Liner...
> But what the HELL?
> They talk to God!
>
>
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