[kj] Unspeakable Suicide Bomb Bitching

[Alexander Smith]

"Unspeakable Bitching:
>> Exactly. In a candid interview setting, now you're
> just getting ridiculous and sounding like an idiot.
>
> So Jaz is "an idiot" because you disagree with him?"


That's not my quote.

Alex in NYC


On Thursday, November 17, 2005, at 10:56 AM, Darth Vader wrote:

> Thus moaned Alex in BRA, ad nauseum:
>>>>> In the instance of the "Bloodsport" musings, this
> would be a fair postulation, but in an (arguably)
> candid interview on the DVD? No.
>
> Unspeakable Bitching:
>> Exactly. In a candid interview setting, now you're
> just getting ridiculous and sounding like an idiot.
>
> So Jaz is "an idiot" because you disagree with him?
>
> This seems quite a childish attitude really.
> But who am I to be critical?
>
>> For such a smart (right?) man, he sure is an idiotic
> blowhard and an incompetent communicator.
>
> How can he be both smart & idiotic at the same time?
> Its an oxymoron!
>
> So have any of you Jaz critics acheived as much with
> their lives as him?
>
> Perhaps if suicide bombers bother you so much you
> should take a long look at your own modes of existance
> and ask how you can eradicate the things the lead to
> this happening?
>
>> I can even potentially conceive, in ways similar to
> what iPat has said, what Jaz might even be after when
> he says $hit like this, but it's a big, big stretch.
>
> Clearly one of you needs to interview him and bring up
> these topics for discussion, rather than bitching ad
> nauseum on the internet.
>
> Maybe you could call Jaz an "idiotic blowhard" to his
> face? No doubt a few choice insults would lead to an
> interesting and grown up conversation, and convince
> Jaz to change his mind!
>
> Maybe Ade could take Jaz on an interesting shopping
> expedition to his local Asda/Walmart that he bores us
> with?
>
> Funny how Alex got all pedantic about Jaz being
> potentially insulted by being described as a "rock
> singer" yet lets the "idiotic blowhard" and "F*ing
> babbling old man" descriptions stand!
>
> So Alex, with your expert knowledge, can you tell
> whether Jaz would "bristle" at these slights?
>
> Perhaps a few of you could also waste his time by
> gathering round to call him a "twat." That would be
> such fun, wouldn't it? It's so funny I can't laugh!
>
>> And for someone as worldly as him, he sure expresses
> himself poorly and lazily (also see the taxes etc.
> part in the Bruce interview).
>
> The tax comment does seem unwise, in that maybe it'd
> be better to keep quiet about such subversion rather
> than advertising it to all and sundry. Still if the
> taxman already knows then what difference does it
> make?
>
> Then again:
> "I am a child of folly
>  Now I want my way
>  And I don't know good or bad"
>
> And a$ for whoever it was who judged that Jaz is a
> hypocrite for not paying taxes that is so utterly
> laughable. FOLLOW THE LEADER$!
>
> (Unless the whole country did it, I guess)
>
>> It's all fine and good to stir $hit every now and
> then--that's the rock n' roll way, ha ha--but again,
> he just does it so lazily and irresponsibly...
>
> How does one responsibly stir $hit?
>
> With a $ilver $poon?
>
> "And my sense of humour getting out of hand"
>
>> it really waters down the occasions when he actually
> does have something interesting or well-thought-out to
> say.
>
> Only if you are too blinkered to think for yourself...
>
>> Which reminds me of an area of disappointment for me
> on the last few albums: the lyrics. I actually share
> and/or enjoy quite a lot (though certainly not all) of
> the sentiment in the lyrics on both 2003 and
> Democracy, but he could've done a lot better in terms
> of articulately expressing them.
>
> Think you could do better?
> Go for it!
>
> "So when I start to smile
>  Then the Harlequins will go-go"
>
>> Whereas on BTATS (whether you like it or not), he had
> some pure poetry; and on ExtremitiesDVRE, he had some
> well-expressed rage, and on the first 4 or 5 albums,
> some great minimalist _expression.
>
> Only paragraph here that was worth the effort of
> writing?
>
>> I know he's always talked out of his arse in
> interviews and such,
>
> Now, this is a blatant lie and is slanderous.
>
> In Jaz's defence at this gross generalistaion, an
> interview from 1982 in Flipside fanzine. Maybe its
> online somewhere. It's where I got that quote about
> patriotism tricking those of low mentality.
>
>> but on the last few albums this sort of laziness has
> infiltrated his lyrics, I think, regressing to the
> sort of Jaz-by-numbers routine. F*ing babbling old
> man.
>
> Just like some of you lot, eh?
>
> Actually Jaz is not really an old man yet, to be
> pedantic.
>
> I also think describing Jaz or anyone in Killing Joke
> as lazy is slanderous.
>
> So hop to it Unspeakable, write us a more eloquent
> statement of discontent than "Seeing Red." It can't be
> such hard work can it?
>
> Funny how all gather round to pity poor ol'Jester with
> his cancer, yet when Jaz gets too sick to tour people
> start cursing him.
>
> And you can all sit at your terminals clacking keys
> about the dubious morality of suicide bombers until
> the cows explode, but you aren't changing anything are
> you?
>
> If you are all so damned concerned about it, maybe you
> should be asking yourselves:
>
> Why are there suicide bombers?
>
> What can be done to prevent this phenomenon?
>
>> Damn I like the music though.
>
> Or there'd be no reason to waste your life to reading
> all this tepid bitching...
>
> "And the diamonds sharp you know"
>
>
> Cracked Machine irregular cyberzine
> http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine
>
> Look at grafitti scrawled on the wall:
> Dubya can't catch family friend Bin Liner...
> But what the HELL?
> They talk to God!
>
>
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