[kj] (ot) Billy Idol.... hahaha (the last one, i swear)
Christof hamille
wessidetempest at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 31 13:41:50 EST 2005
See that's the thing. I don't think their popularity soared as much as the
audince shifted. I know they sold more records...BUT...It just seemed like
the average, stoner rocker, driving a 1978 Camaro turned into a Football
game, Wrestling loving 1998 camaro driving idiot. Same idiots. Different
income bracket
Chris
>From: "Javier Garcia" <jagargal at lycos.com>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
><gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] (ot) Billy Idol.... hahaha (the last one, i swear)
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:24:23 -0500
>
>Ok, this will be the last message on this topic from my side as I honestly
>don't give a tiny little damn about a lame band like Aerosmith and Van
>Halen has been out of my musical interests since the arrival of S. Haggar
>(before I used to like them, and still listen to them some times). The
>original topic was other, and if I'm wrong It's ok, no problem at all.
>I know Van Halen were Arena headliners before '1984'. In my humblest
>opinion and at least in Mexico (and I'm sure most Latin America) 'Jump' was
>their first big hit, you could listen to that song even in a supermarket or
>your "young aunt" -who usually listened shitty pop music for adults- could
>tell you that the song was cool. When Sammy Haggar arrived Van Halen turned
>politically correct and jumped completelly out of the heavy metal scene; by
>that time even your mother could tell you she liked Van Halen songs (Why
>can't this be love?). They reached wider audience, that made me thought
>they sold more records by that time, but am I wrong thinking they turned
>more famous in the Sammy Haggar years??
>
>End of transmision
>
>Javier - the mule ;)
>mexico-city
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Christof hamille" <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] (ot) Billy Idol.... hahahahahahahahahaha
>Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:30:45 -0500
>
> >
> > Correct me if I am wrong but it seemed liek Van HAlen was already
> > headling stadiums BEFORE 1984. Which means something at least as
> > far as popularity.
> > Aerosmith...All I can say is they are a perfect example of a band
> > that was better on the sauce and drugs.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > > From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> > > Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > > <gathering at misera.net>
> > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
><gathering at misera.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [kj] (ot) Billy Idol.... hahahahahahahahahaha
> > > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:17:58 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > > According to BPF, Geordie is a massive Van Halen fan.....as well
> > > he should be.
> > >
> > > Alex in NYC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2005, at 05:24 AM, peter.west410 wrote:
> > >
> > >> You made me do this Javier.I would just like to point out that I dont
>own
> > >> any Van Halen or Aerosmith records and do actually despise them.
> > >> I think we are talking about two different things.Im reffering
>to album
> > >> sales worldwide and you are refferring to when YOU actually listened
>to
> > >> them.If thats the case,then:I ve never bought any of their albums ,So
>they
> > >> ve never sold any.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Van Halen Album Sales
> > >>
> > >> Album
> > >> Copies Sold * Peak Position Weeks on Chart
> > >> VanHalen
> > >> 10.3 Million 19 169
> > >> VanHalen II
> > >> 5.7 Million 6 47
> > >> Women and Children First
> > >> 4.3 Million 6 31
> > >> Fair Warning
> > >> 3.4 Million 5 23
> > >> Diver Down
> > >> 4 Million 3 65
> > >> 1984
> > >> 10 Million 2 77
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Javier Garcia" <jagargal at lycos.com>
> > >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > >> <gathering at misera.net>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:04 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (ot) Billy Idol.... hahahahahahahahahaha
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> So Aerosmith never broke??? I've always thought they splitted up for
>some
> > >> years in the 80's. Still, I think they turned bigger worldwide since
>the
> > >> second half of the eighties. At least in Latin America. The same with
>Van
> > >> Halen. Even when their first album may have sold more copies than any
>other
> > >> (which i really doubt, at least worlwide), i have the reference of
>the 1984
> > >> album as their first big explosion. C'mon! Jump sounded more than any
>other
> > >> VH song before. And as i see it, after the arrival of Sammy Haggar,
>VH
> > >> reached a wider audience.
> > >>
> > >> We may see things different as the Latin American music scenario and
>market
> > >> is very different from yours in the UK and US. Maybe Brasil could be
>an
> > >> exception when i talk about Latin America's music market as they've
>been
> > >> selling a lot of records of very different kind of music for many
>years ago.
> > >> They had festivals like Rock in Rio and Monsters of Rock -am I right
>Diaz??-
> > >> when we in Mexico and most Latin-american countries could only
>achieve to
> > >> see Julio Iglesias live!!
> > >>
> > >> Javier
> > >> mex.city
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
> > >> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > >> <gathering at misera.net>
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (ot) Billy Idol.... hahahahahahahahahaha
> > >> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:59:53 +0100
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> "I dare to say without a doubt that "the kings of return and
>success" are
> > >>> Aerosmith, they returned to became a huge, huge act."
> > >>>
> > >>> Inncorrect Javi.
> > >>> If you see their discography below,You will see that Aerosmith
>never
> > >>> went away.They have been amazingly consistant with their releases
>,And the
> > >>> most popular ones were from 1975 & 1980.The Early years.
> > >>>
> > >>> PW
> > >>> Albums
> > >>> a.. Aerosmith (1973) #21 US, US Sales: 2,000,000
> > >>> b.. Get Your Wings (1974) #74 US, US Sales: 3,000,000
> > >>> c.. Toys in the Attic (1975) #11 US, US Sales: 8,000,000
> > >>> d.. Rocks (1976) #3 US, US Sales: 4,000,000
> > >>> e.. Draw the Line (1977) #11 US, US Sales: 2,000,000
> > >>> f.. Live Bootleg (1978) #13 US, US Sales: 1,000,000
> > >>> g.. Night in the Ruts (1979) #14 US, US Sales: 1,000,000
> > >>> h.. Greatest Hits (1980) #53 US, US Sales: 10,000,000
> > >>> i.. Rock in a Hard Place (1982) #32 US, US Sales: 500,000
> > >>> j.. Done with Mirrors (1985) #36 US, US Sales: 500,000
> > >>> k.. Classics Vol. 1 (Purple cover) (1986) #84 US, US Sales:
>1,000,000
> > >>> l.. Classics Vol. 2 (Red cover) (1987), US Sales: 500,000
> > >>> m.. Permanent Vacation (1987) #11 US, #37 UK, US Sales: 5,000,000
> > >>> n.. Gems (1988) #133 US, US Sales: 500,000
> > >>> o.. Pump (1989) #5 US, #3 UK, US Sales: 7,000,000
> > >>> p.. Pandora's Box (1991) #45 US, US Sales: 1,000,000
> > >>> q.. Get a Grip (1993) #1 US, #2 UK, US Sales: 7,000,000
> > >>> r.. Box of Fire (1994), US Sales: 500,000
> > >>> s.. Big Ones (1994) #6 US, #7 UK, US Sales: 4,000,000
> > >>> t.. Nine Lives (1997) #1 US, #4 UK, US Sales: 2,000,000
> > >>> u.. A Little South of Sanity (1998) #12 US, #36 UK, US Sales:
>1,000,000
> > >>> v.. Just Push Play (2001) #2 US, #7 UK, US Sales: 1,000,000
> > >>> w.. Young Lust: The Aerosmith Anthology (2001) #191 US, #32 UK,
>US
> > >> Sales:
> > >>> 500,000
> > >>> x.. O, Yeah! The Ultimate Aerosmith Hits (2002) #4 US, #6 UK, US
>Sales:
> > >>> 1,000,000
> > >>> y.. Honkin' on Bobo (2004) #5 US, #28 UK, US Sales: 600,000
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Javier Garcia" <jagargal at lycos.com>
> > >>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > >>> <gathering at misera.net>
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:45 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (ot) Billy Idol.... hahahahahahahahahaha
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Well, I must let my dark side to show up and say I used to like
>Billy Idol
> > >>> first couple of albums. IMHO Rebell Yell is a pretty nice 80's album
>(I
> > >> even
> > >>> have it on CD!!!).
> > >>>
> > >>> Regarding the topic about reformed bands:
> > >>> I dare to say without a doubt that "the kings of return and success"
>are
> > >>> Aerosmith, they returned to became a huge, huge act.
> > >>> Van Halen could count too, although I guess they never split after
>the
> > >>> departure of David Lee Roth, when Sammy Haggar came up, they turned
>bigger
> > >>> than they were before.
> > >>>
> > >>> My two pesos
> > >>>
> > >>> Javier
> > >>> MexCity
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >>>> "Now, I barely remember much of his earlier works but I'm pretty
>sure
> > >>>> he used to try and sound american like most UK rock acts did. Well
>now
> > >>>> he's putting on the mockney, coupled with the fact that he really
> > >>>> cannot sing."
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Well, for a start, Billy was in GENERATION X, who I thought were
>pretty
> > >>>> damn great, so go easy there, hater!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Secondly, like Robert Plant before him, Billy Idol cannot sing ANY
> > >>>> MORE, but he certainly once could.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Alex in NYC
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sunday, March 27, 2005, at 08:57 AM, bluce ree wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> .... chortle!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I saw his new video last night.... oh my god.... I dont think
> > >>>>> I'll ever recover. It is without a doubt the funniest, most
> > >>>>> awful thing I've ever seen. The video is the usual 80s on-stage
> > >>>>> heavy rock thing, but with a terrible, terrible Billy singing to
> > >>>>> a woman in the crowd thing going on (like that Springsteen video
> > >>>>> with Courtney Cox in it).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Now, I barely remember much of his earlier works but I'm pretty
> > >>>>> sure he used to try and sound american like most UK rock acts
> > >>>>> did. Well now he's putting on the mockney, coupled with the fact
> > >>>>> that he really cannot sing. He struggles throughout the song
> > >>>>> which features some of the worst lyrics imaginable.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> You are the lock
> > >>>>> I am the key
> > >>>>> Climb up my lemon tree
> > >>>>> I mean for fuck's sake... how bad is that? Oh... not bad enough?
> > >>>>> Okay... try....
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Pretty baby in the back of my car
> > >>>>> Look now, you've gone too far
> > >>>>> Have a slice of my lemon pie
> > >>>>> One more will get you high
> > >>>>> the video ends with two more laughably awful things. Firstly the
> > >>>>> camera pans out to reveal about thousands of people in the
> > >>>>> audience when clearly there were about 50 max and then right at
> > >>>>> the end the woman in the crowd passes out and when she recovers
> > >>>>> Billy is there and he says....
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 'are you alright, love'... it sort of all sounded like The Cult
> > >>>>> at their very worst, but even more shit!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
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