[kj]Deleteiquette

Leigh Newton angrytomhanks at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 20 23:40:40 EST 2005


I never agreed to any such thing. For the record.

--- "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
wrote:

> 
> And why was nt this off-list?We all agreed to the
> "Abuse only.off-list",But
> Im the only one sticking to it.
>     Right.CAN WE DROP THIS SUBJECT.Its even 
> dragging me down
> 
> 
> > Jesus, Peter.
> *******Quite appropriate for a Sunday**********
> 
>  i used to think your posts were funny
> 
> *******Bear with me,The list is going through an
> argumentive patch**********
> 
> > and your way of getting a rise out of people was
> at
> > least clever.
> 
> 
> *******And everyong gets their turn**********
> 
> 
> 
>  But lately, you sound like such a whiny
> > little baby.
> 
> *******If you look back,I ve always been the
> same.Maybe you ve
> changed*********
> 
> Chopping up emails and rebuting to every
> > single sentence,
> 
> ********I find it the best way to deal with
> individual points*******
> 
>  God!
> 
> *******Sunday!!!!D,appropriate************
> 
> 
>  Talk about embarassing. Grow
> > some balls, would you?
> 
> ********That slogan always makes me cringe*********
> 
> 
> > Leigh
> >
> > --- "peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Greyson started
> > > it..................................I ve got a
> > > feeling that
> > > you dont care who started it,       But you cant
> > > blame me for replying to
> > > someone whos trying to even further discredit my
> > > name ,by making false  and
> > > damaging accusations.
> > >
> > >         PW
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> > > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> > > band!)"
> > > <gathering at misera.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:39 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [kj] etiquette
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Stop all this bullshit, please. It's making
> this
> > > list fucking
> > > > embarrassing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Alex in NYC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, March 19, 2005, at 05:06 PM,
> > > peter.west410 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi, Paul--
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You and I are on GOOD terms, my friend. 
> You
> > > and I
> > > > >> sorted things out ages and ages ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > ********Whooopeee.You ve both got a
> freind(each
> > > other)**********
> > > > >
> > > > >> I used the term "idiots" in the plural just
> in
> > > case
> > > > >> there WAS more than just peter.west doing
> the
> > > multiple
> > > > >> personalities to argue shite.  However, I
> find
> > > it
> > > > >> interesting that as I never mentioned his
> > > actual NAME,
> > > > >
> > > > > *******Greyson,You were obviously referring
> to
> > > me,That was blatently
> > > > > obvious***********
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > he continues to attack me.
> > > > >
> > > > > *******I ve mentioned your name twice in one
> > > year,And only as a
> > > > > response to
> > > > > you.I think "attack" is the wrong
> word......I
> > > mentioned you.When you
> > > > > use the
> > > > > word "Attack" in this instance,It devalues
> the
> > > word**********
> > > > >
> > > > >  Especially as my original
> > > > >> complaint was about how he wastes
> everyone's
> > > time.
> > > > >
> > > > > *******So you understand that I was replying
> to
> > > you?********
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> And he is a waste of time.  I've had to
> block
> > > him
> > > > >> personally on several occasions,
> > > > >
> > > > > *******Well you cant be doing it right,If
> you
> > > blocked me correctly,You
> > > > > would
> > > > > only have to do it once*********
> > > > >
> > > > >  because he simply
> > > > >  won't stop.
> > > > >  He's even brought my name up in other
> > > > >  periods when I had not posted anything;
> > > > >
> > > > > ********Dont kid yourself that you are that
> > > important...............I
> > > > > Dont
> > > > > recall mentionning your name in other
> > > periods..............I even
> > > > > forgot
> > > > > that you were here*************
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  there's
> > > > >> something he's personally attaching to my
> name
> > > so that
> > > > >> if he's worked up, I'm somehow involved.
> > > Paranoid,
> > > > >> maybe.
> > > > >
> > > > > **********Again ,Dont kid yourself.I thought
> > > that you left ages
> > > > > ago.Paranoid
> > > > > may be the correct word here,But not in the
> same
> > > sentence as
> > > > > peter.west*******
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Cheers, Paul--and thanks for contributing
> the
> > > vinyl to
> > > > >> the Jester fundraiser.  I now own a lot of
> it!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Oh, and I wasn't advocating we start a new
> > > list, I
> > > > >> only meant we'd eventually have to find a
> new
> > > list
> > > > >> once this one becomes befouled beyond all
> > > tolerance.
> > > > >
> > > > > *******To tell the truth Grey,No-one is
> really
> > > bothered in what you
> > > > > were
> > > > > advocating***********
> > > > >
> > > > > See you again .................next year
> > > > >   PW
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Grey :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:22:37 +0000
> > > > >>> From: Paul Rangecroft
> <spud.u.hate at gmail.com>
> > > > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] etiquette
> > > > >>> To: gathering at misera.net
> > > > >>> Message-ID:
> > > > >>>
> <98abf93605031902226d1914ec at mail.gmail.com>
> > > > >>> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset=ISO-8859-1
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> concerning recent events:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> firstly, i couldn't care less about PW
> using
> > > my
> > > > >>> name. nobody thinks
> > > > >>> it's me so what difference does it make if
> he
> > > posts
> > > > >>> as me or as Peter
> > > > >>> Pumpkinhead?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> starting a new list? i dunno. possibly
> this
> > > could
> > > > >>> work. if people are
> > > > >>> leaving then the argument about not
> wanting to
> > > > >>> break-up the list
> > > > >>> doesn't apply.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> look at it this way: if a group of friends
> who
> > > all
> > > > >>> liked KJ were down
> > > > >>> the pub (prop. A. Misera - bloody nice
> bloke
> > > with a
> > > > >>> fine knowledge of
> > > > >>> german beers), and one was a special needs
> > > child who
> > > > >>> couldn't speak
> > > > >>> english properly and keeps dribbling his
> > > shandy,
> > > > >>> spitting crisps
> > > > >>> everywhere and insulting people every time
> > > they open
> > > > >>> their mouths, and
> > > > >>> said retard was banned from the pub next
> door,
> > > > >>> wouldn't they all just
> > > > >>> go next door?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> the argument "there is one Killing Joke"
> > > wouldn't
> > > > >>> make any sense. nor
> > > > >>> would the free speech argument. "there can
> be
> > > only
> > > > >>> one" seems to imply
> > > > >>> a lack or perspective, like we are
> important
> > > or
> > > > >>> intrinsically linked
> > > > >>> with the band. we're not - just friends
> > > hanging out
> > > > >>> and chatting. some
> > > > >>> people only use the gathering message
> board
> > > and some
> > > > >>> people only use
> > > > >>> joe's boards so we don't even represent
> the
> > > entire
> > > > >>> online community of
> > > > >>> KJ fans.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> if i am resposible for people leaving the
> i
> > > > >>> apologise. personally i
> > > > >>> think peter west is the source of most of
> the
> > > > >>> negativity here, which
> > > > >>> is why i decided to tackle him (despite
> > > advising
> > > > >>> people in the past to
> > > > >>> just ignore him or block his account(s)!) 
> he
> > > > >>> campions mik's cause for
> > > > >>> promoting the band (though quite why
> someone
> > > who has
> > > > >>> never heard of KJ
> > > > >>> would be looking at his site is a mystery
> to
> > > me) but
> > > > >>> he himself does
> > > > >>> the exact opposite by continually driving
> > > people
> > > > >>> away.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> i would be in favour of any method to get
> rid
> > > of
> > > > >>> him. if someone wants
> > > > >>> to start a new list, get colesy, iPat and
> > > everyone
> > > > >>> else who has left
> > > > >>> because of PW back on board then go for
> it. if
> > > > >>> anyone has some
> > > > >>> constructive criticism about my own
> behaviour
> > > i'm
> > > > >>> all ears (i'm not
> > > > >>> sure if greyson was referring to me below,
> the
> > > word
> > > > >>> "idiots" (ie
> > > > >>> plural) would seem to imply she is not
> just
> > > blaming
> > > > >>> peter west).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:33:29 -0500
> > > (GMT-05:00), Alex
> > > > >>> Smith
> > > > >>> <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> With the utmost respect, Alexi my dear,
> NO
> > > NEW
> > > > >>> LIST. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> There is one Killing Joke. As such there
> is
> > > one
> > > > >>> Gathering. Let's try to keep it together,
> > > shall we?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Alex in NYC
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> ----Original Message Follows----
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Basically, we'll all have to eventually
> leave
> > > The
> > > > >>>> Gathering to the ill-intentioned and
> start
> > > another
> > > > >>> one
> > > > >>>> elsewhere!  (laughs)
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> That's why I've lurked without commenting
> for
> > > > >>> ages,
> > > > >>>> but I'm about fed up with the multiple
> > > > >>> personalities
> > > > >>>> of certified idiots.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Grey
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
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