[kj] Miks DVDs

Mon Mar 14 21:10:57 EST 2005

Damn,that made me laugh for about the 1st time today. : )

"peter.west410" <peter.west410 at ntlworld.com> wrote:I can do "basic" as well.
Say if I owned a horse,And I spent lots of money on its upkeep and gave
it lots of attention,Then I would charge you if you wanted to use it,For
rides or whatever..................But if the horse took a dump ,And you
came along and started to shovel it up(Manure is hard to come by in the
hood),I would nt charge you for it.And if you decided to sell it on,I would
let you keep the money because you are creating the wealth, And although the
dump was officially mine I would nt be able to profit from it So you would
be welcome to utilise it in anyway you can.
Or say if I had a massive lawn and I cut the
grass...........................You know whats coming next, So to save my
typing use your imaginations
PW

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob's Arse" 
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Miks DVDs

Let's put it into basics (and i'm not trying to patronise).
See it from the band's perspective. Any band's, any person who has invested
time and money into something.

The question is;

Can I come round and sell the contents of your home?

I like them. I don't own them but I would like to see other people have some
of it and take the money for me.

That's why people like Mik got closed down.
You can argue the rights and wrongs , but the fact remians that he did not
OWN what was sold.

--- "peter.west410" 
wrote:

From: "peter.west410" 

Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:17:04 -0000
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

Subject: Re: [kj] Miks DVDs

I also provided him with one of his best selling titles.
I really cant understand why you would nt like to see Mik prosper.What
have you got against Mik doing well?If he was making money at my expense and
cutting my profits then i could understand it.
Personally,I would like to see all my friends or acquaintances doing
well(All three of them:-) (Or is it the English way to begrudge successful
people)
Or maybe you are happy being part of one big family without a pot to piss
in,And whoever starts doing well for themselves must be stopped?
That 30 second clip from "Thats life" is freely available from Ades
site (Cheers Ade ;-)
So why do people begrudge other people raking it in?

PW

----- Original Message -----
From: "god botherer" 
To: ; 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:23 PM
Subject: [kj] Miks DVDs

> Don't forget that Mik was provided with at least some of his collection
for
> free by people like me, who simply welcomed the opportunity for the widest
> possible number of people to see what we had. So I don't think it would
have
> been right for him to have made serious money out of it.
>
> Personally, I would not have given up such material to anybody who I
thought
> was going to make serious money out of it, but I didn't begrudge Mik the
> paltry round sum of Â£5 for the cost of the raw materials (don't forget
> things like cartridge ink), the postage and packing and the not
> inconsiderable time spent. He provided a service and a labour of love.
>
> However, I would be rather pissed off now, if, for instance, something of
> which I once possessed the only copy in the world outside the BBC (i.e.
Jaz
> on That's Life) now gets incorporated into somebody's money making
project.
>
> Si
>
> >From: Paul Rangecroft 

> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >
> >To: Geordie Wanker ,"A list about all things
Killing
> >Joke (the band!)" 
> >Subject: Re: [kj] Miks DVDs
> >Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:46:33 +0000 (GMT)
> >
> >That just proves what a spineless snivelling little shit that you are.
> > All you are worried about is Mik NOT making money.As Mik was nt
> >taking money out of KJs pot and was helping to publicise the band and
doing
> >the fans a favour,Then I hoped he would of been making big money.I really
> >would of liked to of seen Mik sale loads of his wares and become
> >rich,instead of the paltery figure he was selling.And all you seem to be
> >worried about is Mik NOT earning money.
> >
> >
> >2-0..............................you prick.
> >
> >
> >
> >Geordie Wanker wrote:
> >i agree with rob. Â£5 is not cost. sell a few hundred bootlegs (and
> >with so many on his site and the entire www as your marketplace that's
> >not out of the question) and you could make over a grand.
> >
> >i can understand mik being a bit cheesed off (if he is cheesed off, i
> >don't know since i haven't talked to him about it) because he got
> >mixed signals from the band. "anything you want, just ask" they told
> >him. and the official site linked to him (and still does!). then all
> >of a sudden he's told to stop. i'd be annoyed if that were me.
> >
> >if he HAD been trading at cost and the band were a bit more consistent
> >perhaps a better solution could have been arrived at. it is a shame
> >that fans don't have access to these gigs and promo videos anymore.
> >
> >concerning the mel thing. i must apolgise to ade. i honestly, honestly
> >thought it was that dunce westy. but it seems not so it looks like
> >i've made a twat of myself with my first post coming back so no change
> >there then. PW can notch that up as 1-0 to him.
> >
> >get well soon jester joe.
> >
> >sir paul of rangecroft
> >(told you i was mad)
> >
> >On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:43:43 -0800 (PST), Rob's Arse wrote:
> > >
> > > Ade dear, you may misunderstand me.
> > >
> > > I'm not against Mik selling his stuff but my point is that, if you're
> >going
> > > to stop someone doing soemthing, then replace it with something
better.
> >I'm
> > > just offering a little more detail into the reason why he was asked to
> >stop.
> > >
> > > And at Â£5 dvd, you can make money. I buy blank DVDs for 26p. cases
for
> >10p,
> > > jiffy bags for 12p and postage would be 50p. At Â£5 a pop, Mik would
> > > actually be making more money than the band would likely get on an
> >official
> > > release!
> > >
> > > The fact that KJ keep missing business opportunties no longer
surprises
> >me!
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