[kj] your first "punk" gig.....

Steve Hackett thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk
Thu Jun 30 13:43:18 EDT 2005


KJ n Play Dead at Digbeth Civic was a little nasty - with skins pickin out people from the balcony and then steamin into them from the back of the hall although I'm sure someone joined in straight from the balcony.
Havin said that Play Dead at the Golden Eagle Brum was even nastier
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  From: iPat 
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  psychobilly: mekons - hicky was roadcrew! Always kicking off
  Crass (later released on cd) in Perth was an exciting encounter where the Poisens smuggled me and others out of Perth for our own safety in the back of their ambulance.
  Sham gigs were always violent
  Upstarts were always troublesome as were 4 skins, 4be2's. Bristol was always dangerous.
  Ramones in 79 was nasty in Colchester
  At the Clash gig some bouncers went over the top so when Siouxsie played teh next wek it became a blood bath.
  i could go on but violence was part n parcel of gigs and when it wasnt amongst sections of the crowd it was against the police. A conflict gig was really bad
  Specials did Sight n Sound on BBC2. The BBC edited out the running riot at the back of the hall with the nf.
  Cant ever recall violence at any Joke gigs i was at.

  book:
  http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/026-5433574-9582866

   
  On 6/30/05, Jpwhkj at aol.com <Jpwhkj at aol.com> wrote: 
    iPat <pmdavies at gmail.com> writes:

    >it was my first gig scrap, a crass gig when the nf kicked off. 

    Amazingly, I've never actually had a fight at a gig. I've broken up a few though ('cos we're all punks together, right). The first one was at the Clarendon in Hammersmith, where some harmless drunken idiot was about to take a real pasting from a massive psychobilly (think a beefier version of Jel with a mohican and cut-off "muscle" t-shirt). Anyway, I was 16, and alone at my second or third gig (Lords, I think), and figured that I had to break it up. So when Mr P Billy drew his arm back for the killer punch, I grabbed it by the biceps. It was somewhat alarming to realise that my hand didn't even go half-way round his arm. Eek! He turned round, and took a swing at me: I ducked, and the haymaker skimmed harmlessly over my head. He turned back to the harmless loon (who was so drunk he hadn't taken the opportunity to escape) and lined up another punch. Someone else grabbed his arm, and he swung at them (and missed). Back to the loon: so I grabbed him again. Again he flailed at me, and again he missed. So then me and the other chap took it in turns to grab him as he prepared to flatten Mr Drunk, and took it in turns to duck the irritated flailings. Eventually the drunk got himself together and left. Phew... 

    >However, if you read Penny's book the NF saw them as their band to begin with!

    What book?

    Jamie

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