[kj] Youth

Tue Jun 28 13:22:59 EDT 2005

Good call.  Tina Weymouth (Talking Heads) is an
excellent bassist.

--- Tim Bucknall <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com> wrote:

> I don't reckon Alex meant anything bad by that,
> its just that its great when  you  come to a band
> with no preconceived ideas
> about what you should do and you learn and grow with
> the band, like wobble
> or the Girl in Talking heads
> 
> i mean "the wait" is genius,   if he was like that
> when he rejoined in 93
> i'd never criticise him,
> if you think about the kind of bassline some boring
> metal head would play to
> a song like the wait and then listen to youths bit,
> its genius
> 
> its odd that you didn't feel comfortable with
> Blackbird, he's so down to
> earth,
> maybe you hadn't talked to him much when he was on
> here, anyway everyones
> different, glad you get on well with Jaz & G
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "melinda grant" <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
> To: <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Youth
> 
> 
> > ooooooooooooooooo,very cutting"youth sounds like
> he taught himself to
> > play,wrong", ;-D but as u said,he was original at
> least,i carnt help being
> > fond of youth,i knew him,i still dont know
> raven,we just do not meet on
> any
> > level--infact,i kinda feel uncomfortable around
> him,where as with
> > jaz--gordie,i feel very at ease,as if i have known
> them 4ever......
> > n when paul n youth were around,the same,but
> raven!!!!!!! i carnt
> understand
> > it either.
> >
> > mel ldn uk.
> >
> > >From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> > >Reply-To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>,"A
> list about all things
> > >Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>,"A list about all things
> Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >Subject: Re: [kj] Youth
> > >Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:09:14 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> > >
> > >
> > >I think Raven is "technically" the better player,
> but Youth had more
> > >definable style (I can't think of another bass
> player who sounds like he
> > >does on the first three records). Youth sounds
> more like he taught
> himself
> > >to play (i.e. "wrong" but cultivating an
> inimitable style). That said, I
> > >can't hear any of that style on PANDY through
> KJ2003, suggesting that his
> > >time away from the instrument may have have cost
> him that style.
> > >
> > >Raven, by contrast, is a dependably competent
> player, and seemingly
> always
> > >has been.
> > >
> > >ALex in NYC
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Tim Bucknall <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com>
> > >Sent: Dec 31, 2000 9:02 PM
> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >Subject: Re: [kj] Youth
> > >
> > >should have read "in tune" when comparing raven's
> playing to youth's post
> > >92
> > >playing
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Tim Bucknall"
> <tim.bucknall at btinternet.com>
> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)"
> > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > >Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 1:00 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [kj] Youth
> > >
> > >
> > > > i think the reason you can hardly hear raven
> is more down to the
> mixing
> > >that
> > > > his actual playing,
> > > > the mixing on his first prong album, makes me
> want to trash the
> speakers
> > > >
> > > > i agree that youth was better than good on the
> first 3 albums, he was
> > > > extraordinary,
> > > >
> > > > as for the Bass on KJ 03 the ones i can
> actually really hear is "House
> > >that
> > > > pain built" which is obviously raven and
> implant which is apparently
> > >Geordie
> > > > according to the people that know this stuff
> > > > and apparently some of it is programmed,
> > > > It's so brilliant Having Raven back, because
> it basically means that
> > >they
> > > > can play anything they want live, any songs
> from any period, can be
> > > > performed tightly and tune
> > > >
> > > > i'll prob be on the chat for a bit if anyone
> else is bored, if i
> vanish
> > >its
> > > > because i've being forced to talk to my
> relatives :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "melinda grant"
> <hollytree1961 at hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <gathering at misera.net>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:34 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [kj] Youth
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > youth was a better more choppy--melodic and
> even funky twang bass
> > >player
> > > > > than raven--u can hear his lv of and 4 the
> bass in any early
> > >works--just
> > > > > compare the difference to raven---half the
> time,i can hardly hear
> > >ravens
> > > > > bass--thats now bland it is,n yes youth did
> write those bass lines
> > >--his
> > > > > bass lines in the early days--of course he 
> n  gordie would
> improvise
> > > > > ect--chuk idears bak n 4th,but youth knew
> his stuff,he was no
> > >slakker-n
> > > > > gordie knows his stuff,they complimented
> each other beautifully n
> > > > > intensly---as 4 k.j.o3 the bass is pritty
> heavy on that,n really
> > >rather
> > > > > good,at last after all these yrs,raven is
> catching up with youth,but
> > >its
> > > > > taken bloody yrs,n in the end,youth is the
> better of the 2.
> > > > >
> > > > > mel ldn uk.    ps get youth bak full time
> jaz,u know it makes sense.
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: bluce ree <bluceree2003 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > > > > >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing
> Joke (the band!)"
> > > > > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > > > > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
> (the band!)"
> > > > > ><gathering at misera.net>
> > > > > >Subject: [kj] Youth
> > > > > >Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:39:19 +0100 (BST)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >This has probably been discussed before but
> anyway...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Did Youth actually write the basslines on
> KJ, WTF and
> > > > > >revs?  Things like Exit, Empire Song and
> Chop Chop
> > > > > >have such brilliant basslines that manage
> to be subtle
> > > > > >but amazing.  It compliments the guitar
> work rather
> 
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