[kj] OT: Tookie and Arnie

[Papa Lazarou]

Scarlet, not sure if you are referring to me as 'blaming society'? If as a political model, then yes. If as in the general public, no. Although one is subject to the other.

Scarlet <lucyfyre at gmail.com> wrote:    Will George get the death penalty too?
   
  I bloody hope so. Personally I think a fitting death would be to slowly drown him in oil while he sucks his Father's dick.  However, it is very easy to blame society for George's actions too. As I said to a Republican friend of mine the other day "How many of us can actually say we've chosen to vote for a mass-murdering drug lord?" 
   
  Scarlet
  "Dave, my wife tells me there is a block in your toilet...there is now." 

 
  On 12/13/05, Will George get the death penalty too?<circuit_bender at yahoo.com> wrote:     I live in LA, and must say gangs are much more 'stylized' than the rest of the world. Fashionable even lol!
  I thought tookie was from South Central, Florence and somewhere?
  Will George get the death penalty too? 
  
Scarlet <lucyfyre at gmail.com> wrote:
      Thing is, not everyone in East LA becomes the head of a crime organization, killing people just 'cause they don't have the right colored bandana, or worse, 'cause they were running away scared. He did. So, if some people have the guts not to do these things, why couldn't he? 
   
  Blaming society for your actions is a cowards way out. The thing is, even if he was a 'bi-product' of society, he continued to endorse that bi-product, until he was in jail, funny that, so that would mean ipso facto society works - and we all know it doesn't. Tookie justified his actions through his society and tried to rectify his actions through society and ultimately died because of the rules of his society. 
   
  Personally, I believe if we are going to change society, the first thing to do is change ourselves. As opposed to Tookie whose moral was "If we are going to change society, the first thing we do is take what we want and shoot anyone who gets in our way. 
   
  Scar 

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