[kj] happy birthday ADOLF

peter.west410 peter.west410 at ntlworld.com
Fri Apr 22 06:40:50 EDT 2005


********Well that asks more questions than it answers:
Were the lights voice activated?
Were the lights on continuously?
Why was nt there any light switches?
Did they have access to any other light switches? ect ect ******


now you are being ridiculous for the sake of it

XXXXXXX Well no,.I asked if it was an innuendo and you said the question was
"precise & a matter of fact",So in that regards ,i had to take the question
at face value.And ive given you an answer to the question, as an innuendo
and as face value.What more can you ask for?XXXXXXXXX



*******But facts are facts********

Clearly so but maybe not truths.

XXXXXX  I see that as a contradictory of terms:The two terms go hand in
hand.If its a fact,then it must be trueXXXXXXX


or is it about control?

********Control & power over people is all part of the same package*********

Yes, but this contradicts many of your other statements. You say
people have free choice yet acknowledge the above statement

XXXXXXXXI am referring to a huge range of subjects here.So is so easy to
point out some seemingly contradictions.
  Explanation:Governments have control & power over the people on a grand
scale of their lives,but people are free to make choices as to what to
think(But the amount of freedom governments give, varies from country to
country)XXXXXXXXXXX



 ******I dont know if it was spontaneous or state sponsored,But its safe to
say that if the authorities wanted to stop it ,they would********

XXXXXXXYes,But to different degrees.Going against the Government of
China,would most probably see the perpetrator going on permanent vacation to
Siberia or Tibet(I ve been to Tibet and  Han Chinese get sent there as
punishmentXXXXXXXXXX
   There is actually a "Holiday Inn" in Lhasa.XXXXXXXXXX

Which is the same in this country

XXXXXXX I did say the world over:In Australia it was/is not allowed to teach
kids anything of history unless it conforms with The Bible(Or something
along those lines) The Japanese arent taught about WW2.
  And in UK we are nt taught about the heroics of our army throughout the
ages.The Greatness of the Empire is over-looked .But there again ,you can
teach kids ALL of history..............It would take ages.So the teaching of
history MUST be selectiveXXXXXXXXX
 ( I know I ve made a mistake,I ve answered a question that should of been
below,But Im not deleting it now)


n  But subsequent generations of children will be learning selective history

*******Its a common occurrence ,its the same the world over*******

but you took umbrage at this very point! *******But facts are
facts******** you say and now you seem to accept that this is not the
case, that the amount of information clearly is controlled by those
with a vested interest and so in that argument there is a restriction
and therefore not a freedom of choice

********Education:At School level,they give you information,At university
level you must find out information for yourself.no-one "teaches" you.So its
up to oneself to find information*******

*********Any means necessary was a slogan for both sides in the
dispute**********

now that's bollocks.

********Its not bollocks ,its true.OK it was nt actually a slogan for the
Authorities,But they certainly put the slogan into practice.********



********I would say that predecessors respected natural resources more
,Because they came into contact with them more.I must of been about 12 years
old before I saw a real cow**********

and so they were aware of the power of the force of nature more than
urbanites today. Glad you now accept that point. I was just down in
Wales where the inquiry just started concerning the kids who got
washed away in a flash flood, encouraged into the water by a youth
worker who had no respect for the power of water. After the new years
Tsunami do you think people have a greater respect for the power of
nature? Or was it just entertainment value for a week or so on the
telly?

*********Flash floods:You can get a wall of water coming out of nowhere in
literally a matter of seconds.If you are unaware of the path of these flash
floods ,then you are in danger if they materialise.
    Well,I dont think anybody at all,saw the Tsunami as entertainment,And it
really is an unfortunate choice of words.But I dont think that its changed
peoples perception of nature.Because people are nt generally immediately
concerned about there own welfare until things actually happen to
them.********************





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