[kj] The Fanatic

Phillipps Marc Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk
Wed Oct 20 05:09:23 EDT 2004


>Trust me. I'm not as stupid as I look.

*bites tongue* 



> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Rob's Arse [SMTP:joker at Z6.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:12 PM
> To:	gathering at misera.net
> Subject:	RE: [kj] The Fanatic
> 
> Oh fucking hell! ;-)
> 
> I was saying that   it is between OTG and Extremities but it lacked the
> punch of the later hence it didn't get on the album. I wasn't saying it
> was not as punchy as OTG.
> 
> It's an average song. I've heard the studio version. It's still average. 
> 
> Trust me. I'm not as stupid as I look.
>  
> --- first fossil <firstfossil at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>  
> From: first fossil <firstfossil at yahoo.co.uk>
> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:08:33 +0100 (BST)
> To: joker at Z6.com, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: RE: [kj] The Fanatic
> 
> 
> 
> Pedestrian? We're talking about the same one? It's  way punchier and more
> immediate  than  Outside the Gate,  it hit me in the right place first
> time I heard it.  I'd say it was in the same waters as Seeing Red or
> Extremities (the song). 
> Was  it too controversial? More interesting a song speculating on
> martyrdom than  one of those nostalgia trips.
> 
> Rob's Arse <joker at Z6.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you cock!
> 
> The Fanatic didn't get on Extremities cos it's pretty lame in comparison.
> The tempo and performance is pedestrian. Same goes for the original
> version of solitude. Maybe a bit more work might have kicked theminto
> shape but I would wager that they wrer writtena s a reaction to OTG but
> then Geordie/Jaz said "We can do better". 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> --- "Paul Rangecroft" <killing_j0ke at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: "Paul Rangecroft" <killing_j0ke at hotmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:58:32 +0000
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: RE: [kj] The Fanatic
> 
> maybe i am thick, as i just don't hear it. in what sense is the structure 
> more OTG? which songs on OTG are you thinking of in particular? which
> parts 
> of these songs have a similar structure? it has a very simple structure, 
> basic geordie spine-tingler riff (can't say that about anything on OTG, 
> maybe 'obsession' at a push), chorus, middle eight. it's surely more like
> a 
> typical NIGHT TIME track in that sense. that early version of 'solitude', 
> i'd say that was more of a precursor. quite a bit of the EXTREMITIES stuff
> 
> was written back in '88, possibly even before then. many of the songs that
> 
> ended up on the album were played live repeatedly through '89, before the 
> album was released, along with 'the fanatic'. it would have slotted in
> very 
> neatly on ED&VRE but would have stuck out like a sore thumb on OTG. if
> there 
> is a bridge between the two albums then it's track 11 on the latter - the 
> segue from the haunting coleman composition 'kaliyuga' into defiant 
> "full-stop followed by an exclamation mark" anthem 'struggle'.
> 
> todd, back me up, man! am i right or am i right?
> 
> >From: Rob's Arse <joker at Z6.com>
> 
> Cos the song structure is more OTG but the delivery is harder. It's a 
> precursor to Extremities.
> 
> You thick or something?
> 
> --- "Paul Rangecroft" <killing_j0ke at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: "Paul Rangecroft" <killing_j0ke at hotmail.com>
> 
> how does it bridge the gap between OTG and EXTREMITIES?
> 
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