[kj] OT: Hypocrisy

[nicholas fitzpatrick]

Alex

Good luck with job hunting. Is the new job going to be that of book author 
for Killing Joke?

This e-mail does not merit a reply.

nick
(PS: Anything more you can tell us on the BPF front yet? Now this does merit 
a reply!)


>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
<gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] OT:  Hypocrisy
>Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:20:06 -0500
>
>
>Peter, I'm not consciously ignoring you, I'm just a bit on the
>busier side these days (trying to secure another job), so I don't
>have time to go over each Gathering post with a fine-tooth comb. I
>see my name pop up here and there, but usually when it's in a post
>of yours, its simply a wind-up...and those don't usually warrant
>immediate reply. Unless it's a really good one, of course.
>
>Anyway, still here.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, November 23, 2004, at 06:38 AM, peter.west410 wrote:
>
>>"I wont pay for Murdoch empire. Full stop. I can watch it in a 
pub"
>>
>>Unless you watch it in a pub and don't but anything then you are
>>contributing,The pubs pay a higher amount too screen the games and
>>that
>>money comes from the profits through higher sales.
>>       Anyway why are you against "helping the murdoch 
empire",It
>>works like
>>this.
>>We pay our money to Sky.
>>Sky gives it to the |Clubs.
>>The clubs buy world class players,Or build better stadiums
>>
>>If there was nt Sky TV there would be no premiership as we know
>>it.We still
>>be stuck with "The Big Match" on Sunday dinnertime.
>>
>>ALEX: Are you ignoring me?  recently ,When I do A post ,You do one
>>a few
>>minutes later on a completely different subject,If you do it after
>>this post
>>then my suspicions will be confirmed.
>>
>>                       PW
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Patrick Davies" <Patrick.Davies at subsea7.com>
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>><gathering at misera.net>
>>Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:35 PM
>>Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Hypocrisy
>>
>>
>><For what reason do "many"people refuse too be 
associated with
>>Sky.And
>>if
>>you are against it ,Then I hope you don't watch any of the
>>programmes.>
>>
>>ah, now you ask why people refuse and then stipulate a method of
>>behaviour before you understand why!
>>
>>I wont pay for Murdoch empire. Full stop. I can watch it in a pub
>>if im
>>so inclined but ultimately life is full of riches that go far
>>beyond
>>that cathode ray tube. After being Thatchers icon of ruthlessness
>>he is
>>happy to jump ship to court anything that gives him money and
>>without
>>regard for people or their culture
>>
>>
>><The only difference between U2 and the KJ advertising campaigns 
is
>>the
>>scale and amount of money involved.U2 song was used in a commercial
>>so
>>was
>>KJs ,U2s faces were used KJs were nt.>
>>
>>As I say I can see a difference. You can disagree. Im not
>>commenting on
>>whether KJ were right.
>>
>><The more money the advertisers pay the more the band do.KJ were 
nt
>>paid
>>much.I suppose U2 use ipods,So why should
>>nt they advertise it,If I remember correctly the KJ song was used
>>to
>>advertise a Sky programme(snow-boarding I think)>
>>
>>these are, I take it, assumptions. You don't really know do you? I
>>already defined the difference to my understanding. Im happy to
>>change
>>that when I see good arguments that encourage deliberation. Im not
>>judging KJ peter, I was simply defining the difference.
>>
>>From: Graham Brown : I'm wondering whether the bands have much say
>>in
>>the matter or whether the label or publisher can do what they like
>>with
>>a piece of music.  I could be wrong...
>>
>>Coldplay (I think) refused their song to be used recently. Cant
>>give you
>>anymore details. The embarrassment of the clash being on that Bond
>>film
>>in order to tekll the viewer that the scene is now in London should
>>be a
>>warning to all artists. I believe the clash s complete control is
>>at the
>>start of a film right now, although I don't know which film it is.
>>
>>ePat
>>
>>
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