[kj] OT: Oddly Enough

Graeme Rowland crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Nov 23 11:14:47 EST 2004


I though the best explanation of 
Atlantis location
was perhaps 
The Azores?

 --- dub <kIlLiNgJoKe at pUnKaSs.CoM> wrote: 
> I was always told that the legend/myth of Tír na nÓg
> (Land of the Young),
> some way relates to fact that Atlantis, was
> somewhere off the coast of
> Ireland.
> Another legend/myth was that of Hy Brasil, an island
> off the west coast of
> Ireland that only appeared every 7 years, but
> disappeared if approached or
> one died if they seen it.
> As I say both these are legends or myths, but every
> legend has it's basis in
> fact somewhere?
> 
> If interested in that sort of thing
>
http://www.cyberfae.com/library/fairyfaith/ffcc260.html
> 
> 
> >From the above site:
> More frequently, in the old Irish manuscripts, the
> Celtic Otherworid was
> located in the midst of the Western Ocean, as though
> it were the ‘double’ of
> the lost Atlantis ; (1) and Manannan Mac Lir, the
> Son of the Sea — perhaps
> himself the ‘double’ of an ancient Atlantean king —
> was one of the divine
> rulers of its fairy inhabitants, and his palace, for
> he was one of the
> Tuatha De Danann, was there rather than in Ireland;
> and when he travelled
> between the two countries it was in a magic chariot
> drawn by horses who
> moved over the sea-waves as on land. And fairy women
> came from that
> mid-Atlantic world in magic boats like spirit boats,
> to charm away such
> mortal men as in their love they chose, or else to
> take great Arthur wounded
> unto death. And in that island world there was
> neither death nor pain nor
> 
> (1) One of the commonest legends among all Celtic
> peoples is about some lost
> city like the Breton Is, or some lost land or island
> (cf. Rhys, Arth. Leg.,
> c. xv, and Celtic Folk-Lore, c. vii); and we can be
> quite sure that if, as
> some scientists now begin to think (cf. Batella,
> Pruebas geologicas de la
> existencia de Ia Atlantida, in Congreso
> internacional de Americanistas, iv.,
> Madrid, 1882; also Meyers, Grosses
> Konversations-Lexikon, ii. 44, Leipzig
> and Wien, 1903) Atlantis once existed, its
> disappearance must have left from
> a prehistoric epoch a deep impress on folk-memory.
> But the Other-world idea
> being in essence animistic is not to be regarded,
> save from a superficial
> point of view, as conceivably having had its origin
> in a lost Atlantis. The
> real evolutionary process, granting the
> disappearance of this island
> continent, would seem rather to have been one of
> localizing and
> anthropomorphosing very primitive Aryan and
> pre-Aryan beliefs about a
> heaven-world, such as have been current among almost
> all races of mankind in
> all stages of culture, throughout the two Americas
> and Polynesia as well as
> throughout Europe, Asia, and Africa. (Cf. Tylor,
> Prim. Cult., ii. 62, 48,
> &c.)
> 
> dub
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
> Behalf Of PRAEst76
> Sent: 16 November 2004 2:21 PM
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Oddly Enough
> 
> Patrick Davies wrote:
> 
> > I was under the impression it was in the atlantic
> and that the island 
> > of Thule was close to Iceland. Maybe it was just
> me. Im sure some on 
> > this list can put the theory better than I.
> 
> I've met people who swore it was Ireland. Which
> would make me an Atlantiean.
> 
> Worship me and my advanced society!
> 
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