[kj] Rollins plays (hates) Joke

Alexander Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Mon Jul 19 18:30:18 EDT 2004



Don't misunderstand me, though. I quite like BTATS, but you must 
concede that for its time, it was a BOLD DEPARTURE from what had come 
before (though a bolder one would come later).

Alex in NYC


On Tuesday, July 20, 2004, at 02:43 AM, Pat Tofield wrote:

> I agree with you Alex that the course of KJ’ness has taken some 
> slightly dubious routes on occasion ( a bit of over-steering by the 
> reverend Coleman methinks ) but BTATS has some truly stellar moments 
> and cannot be lumped into the same equation at OTG and most certainly 
> Democracy....
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> And how anyone can mention Iggy Poop on this list is beyond me....
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> JPat
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> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] Rollins plays (hates) Joke
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> never been a fan of Iggy.  He's been more hit than miss and frankly 
> most of his music is stupid hard rock at best.
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> And Democracy doesnt deserve to be grouped in with OTG and BTATS! 
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> Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
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> I think what irks me most about this is Henry's tireless defense of
> Iggy Pop. Now, I *ADORE* Iggy Pop -- but facts are facts, the man has
> released some truly *ATROCIOUSLY INDEFENSIBLE* records in his day
> ("Candy" anyone?). I remember Rollins guest-VJ'ing on MTV at one point,
> and playing the video for Ig's "Cry for Love" (a crap song from a crap
> album) and frothing at the mouth about how great Iggy was. Now
> sure....Killing Joke may have parted from their more celebrated
> trajectory at one or two points (notably BTATS, OTG and DEMOCRACY), but
> fuck....at least give them credit where it's due. Maybe OTG *WAS*
> "pathetic", but to damn the band based on that one record (yet
> summarily turn a blind eye to a Iggy's period in the wilderness) is a
> double fucking standard.
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> Alex iN NYC
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> On Friday, July 16, 2004, at 11:45 AM, Alexander Smith wrote:
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> > Thanks Nick, I thought I remembered Henry speaking ill of the Joke.
> > Fuckin' hypocrite.
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> > Alex in NYC
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> > On Friday, July 16, 2004, at 06:49 AM, nicholas fitzpatrick wrote:
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> >> Well he's changed his tune from this interview:
> >>
> >> "The first thing I wrote in my journal this year was I'm never going
> >> to England again then as a favour I did that festival with Killing
> >> Joke, the Mission. We had a good time playing, but having to watch
> >> Killing Joke, those guys are pathetic and like the Mission, someone
> >> should just shoot these guys in the head, the Happy Mondays - Gimme 
> a
> >> break, The Wonderstuff - Come on! I don't hate england, but the 
> world
> >> is a big place and I would like to go somewhere else."
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> >> http://www.obsolete.com/convulsion/interviews/convulse/2.9.html
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> >>>>>> Re: [kj] Rollins plays Joke
> >>>>>> Henry Rollins played some Joke on his radio show last Monday.
> >>>>>> Here's
> >> the annotation on his site (http://harmonyinmyhead.com/):
> >> Killing Joke – Change: From the Classic 1st album. I have a few of
> >> their
> >> records but this first one is the one for me. I always thought that
> >> was one
> >> of the coolest band names I ever heard. Played with them outdoors at
> >> the
> >> Fleadh Festival in 1991 I think it was and they were intense. Jaz
> >> Coleman
> >> the band’s singer is an inspiration. He never calms down. For more:
> >> http://www.killingjoke.com/
> >>
> >> Mark
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