[kj] The Courtald Talks/Murder Inc/The Damage Manual

Sven Oliver Roth gathering@misera.net
Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:01:56 +0200


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<P>Aaaaaah, that was you, Dirk!</P>
<P>Man, that was an absolute killer! Haven't felt such an impact in 15 years actually LOL</P>
<P>We gotta kepp touch, man! LOL</P>
<P>Cheers</P>
<P>Sven<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Dirk Kingerske" <DIRKINGERSKE@HOTMAIL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [kj] The Courtald Talks/Murder Inc/The Damage Manual 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:21:20 +0200 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;guess who provided the weed :o) sometimes it's not too bad living at 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the dutch border..... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;dirt 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;From: "Alex Smith" <VASSIFER@EARTHLINK.NET>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Reply-To: gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;To: gathering@misera.net, gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Subject: Re: [kj] The Courtald Talks/Murder Inc/The Damage Manual 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:13:49 -0500 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Jesus, Sven, you were taking your life in your hands. You know 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;that, don't 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;you? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Alex in NYC 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;---------- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;From: "Sven Oliver Roth" <ROTHSVENOLIVER@HOTMAIL.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;To: gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Subject: Re: [kj] The Courtald Talks/Murder Inc/The Damage Manual 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Date: Tue, Sep 30, 2003, 4:09 AM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;I REALLY have to buy the Courtald talks myself now. I missed the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;opportunity 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;once many years ago when I listened into it in a shop and opted for 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;a "real 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;KL album" instead. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Last Friday I was drinking and smoking backstage after the Hamburg 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Gig with 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Jaz and Raven and after a while two "KJ veterans" told Jaz that 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;they had 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;actually been at the Courtald Talks. Jaz immediately shook off his 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;state of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;exhausted post-gig relaxation and asked with hightened interest how 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;they had 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;found it. It obviously means a lot to him. The lads talked a lot 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;about the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;atmosphere, how greatly Geordies Riffs had added to the atmosphere 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;and how 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;the savage Joksters sat totally muted with eyes wide open listening 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;to Jaz. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;But nobody even touched upon what Jaz had actually talked about. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;After a long solemn pause I just said "So, Jaz, what were you 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;actually up to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;with the Courtauld talks?" 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;He slowly turned his head into my direction, hurled at me a long 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;stinging 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;look from under the brim of his black hat and then turned his eyes 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;slowly 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;back into eternity. He started blinking fastly and didn't say 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;anything for 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;quite a long time. I was waiting for a very heavy reply. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Unfortunately it was just then that someone in the room started a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;lengthy 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;and cordial farewell marathon which lasted until only Jaz, Raven, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;me and a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;fourth guy were left in the room. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Then Raven offered me a recording of the gig and we said farewell 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;as well as 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Jaz and Raven where steering towards the exit. I asked Jaz the same 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;question 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;again at the door. He stared at me for a moment and left without a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;word. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Too little time for too many things to explain, I guess. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;I guess I really gotta buy the bloody CD to get some answers 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;instead of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;annoying poor Jaz with stupid questions. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;So, sorry Jaz and thanks for the Mariuanah, have never been that 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;stoned LOL 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;From: Geoffrey ODonoghue 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;Reply-To: gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;To: gathering@misera.net 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;Subject: [kj] The Courtald Talks/Murder Inc/The Damage Manual 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:05:11 -0700 (PDT) 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;Hi all 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;I recently purchased The Courtald Talks, the Murder Inc album (I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;already 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;had the Corpuscle EP) and The Damage Manual EP (&gt;1) and album. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;I find that I quite enjoy listening to Courtald, especially as I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;had not 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;really heard Jaz speaking at all prior to the 2003 interviews 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;(thanks Mik et 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;al). The subject material of the lecture is very interesting and, I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;think, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;quite topical given the current state of the world. It also seems 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;to me that 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Jaz touches on a number of subjects that he explores more fully 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;later with 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;the EXDAVRE lyrics. The only bit where I start rolling my eyes is 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;when he 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;starts talking about H.P. Lovecraft and the elder gods (has anyone 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;here read 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Neil Gaiman's Lovecraftian short story? - mine's a pint of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Shoggoth's Old 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;Peculiar :o). I particularly like Geordie's acoustic guitar backing 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;and the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;bit where Jaz explains and plays the section from Outside The Gate. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;The Murder Inc album also has not disappointed - I was determined 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;to get it 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;after I picked up the Corpuscle EP (for $AUS2!) and really enjoyed 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;it. There 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;is some very nice work by Geordie on the album (Gambit sounds like 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;he partly 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;recycled the riff from Stay One Jump Ahead). Atkins is not 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;producing so it 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;hasn't been f**ked up in that regard. Which brings me to... 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;The Damage Manual - There is obviously some good material and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;great playing 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;on both the EP and album but, as Simon Lee said about the tracks, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;"someone 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;has overproduced them and sucked the raw energy out of most of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;them". This 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;is probably less true of the first 5 tracks of the EP but I can 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;understand 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;how Geordie and Wobble were pissed off with the result. The worst 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;example is 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;probably Stateless (Delusional Mix) - you can hear from the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;(somewhat 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;better) Laswell Mix that this song has a rather nice Geordie riff 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;that has 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;been mixed well back. On the Delusional Mix it is gone. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;If anyone is interested - the best place to buy these CDs at the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;moment is 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;probably directly from Invisible Records. They currently have a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;special 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;offer - 5 CDs for $20, 10 for $35 etc etc - see 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;http://www.invisiblerecords.com/5for20main.htm 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt;Geoff 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt; &gt; 
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