[kj] loose cannon - J page does G walker vis a vis

fluw gathering@misera.net
Thu, 29 May 2003 12:06:32 -0500


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<<zero-distortion-almost-out-of-tune is very DM 'king mob' etc. and it's =

another poor edit when it comes in abruptly too>>


nothing wrong with the lack of distortion imo, a nice touch especially =
considering the delicacy of the bridge riff - what might sound "out of =
tune" to the ear is due to an acquired recognition of the fifths =
chorusing against the droned low D. that, along with the room sound, =
chorus effects, and the subtle vibrato phrasing geordie adds to the =
fretted notes can be a little disconcerting. and isn't that what geordie =
does so well?!=20
very sublime=20

if you can stomach it, listen to page and plant's "when the world was =
young" and "blue train" on walking into clarksdale for some of the =
references to loose cannon.=20

besides that, some killing joke fans may like this album for tunes like =
"most high" and "walking into clarksdale" - the song, where the sharp =
listener should notice similarities between geordie and jimmy in the =
90's, very interesting. since walking into clarksdale came out in 98, =
the case could be made that jimmy was listening to killing joke quite a =
bit in the 90's=20

as far as the edit goes, it is unorthodox. more power to 'em









todd




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  To: gathering@misera.net=20
  Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] loose cannon


  >From: "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
  >
  >fuckin boring marshall crunch + vocals same as demo (democracy style =
cookie=20
  >monster speak) + schzitttttttschzitttttttschzit hi hats dominating=20
  >everything =3D crap

  it's a fucking DAMAGE MANUAL song. (btw, anyone in the uk able to help =
- was=20
  i dreaming or did i hear TDM's 'stateless' being played on sara cox's =
radio=20
  1 show at about ten past nine this morning?!?!). boring guitar sound =
yes =3D=20
  DM. hi hats ruining what little of value is there =3D DM. the vocals =
are a=20
  different take to the demo but still hackneyed jazisms. too many =
bleeps and=20
  tweeks and flanged farts =3D DM. the middle 8=20
  zero-distortion-almost-out-of-tune is very DM 'king mob' etc. and it's =

  another poor edit when it comes in abruptly too. nice of them to let =
geordie=20
  plug his guitar in after a minute and a half but it's way too low in =
the mix=20
  =3D DM. it's an improvement on the demo but not much. dave grohl's =
hardly=20
  noticable - what a waste of national radio airtime. how anyone can =
prefer=20
  this to 'implant' i have no idea. imagine a casual fan who hasn't =
heard=20
  anything since DEMOCRACY - hardly gonna blow them away is it?

  >but hey, something new, finally geordie proves unequivocally that =
jimmy=20
  >page was an influence, as the guitar on the bridge is an obvious rip =
off of=20
  >1990's page

  we already knew that from 'sunset gun'.

  >what/who do you wager is on bass blowhardess?

  martin piglover.

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<DIV>&lt;&lt;zero-distortion-almost-out-of-tune is very DM 'king mob' =
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it's <BR>another poor edit when it comes in abruptly too&gt;&gt;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nothing wrong with the lack of =
distortion&nbsp;imo,=20
a nice touch especially considering the&nbsp;delicacy of the bridge riff =
- what=20
might sound "out of tune" to the ear is due to&nbsp;an acquired =
recognition=20
of&nbsp;the fifths chorusing against the droned low D. that, along with =
the room=20
sound, chorus effects,&nbsp;and the subtle&nbsp;vibrato phrasing geordie =
adds to=20
the fretted notes can be a little disconcerting.&nbsp;and isn't that =
what=20
geordie does so well?!&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>very&nbsp;sublime </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>if you can&nbsp;stomach it, listen to =
page and=20
plant's "when the world was young" and "blue train"&nbsp;on walking into =

clarksdale for some of the references to loose =
cannon.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>besides that, some killing joke fans =
may like this=20
album for tunes like "most high" and "walking into clarksdale"=20
-&nbsp;the&nbsp;song, where&nbsp;the sharp listener should notice =
similarities=20
between geordie and jimmy in the 90's, very interesting. since walking =
into=20
clarksdale came out in 98, the case could be&nbsp;made that jimmy was =
listening=20
to killing joke quite a bit in the 90's&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as far as the edit goes, it is =
unorthodox. more=20
power to 'em</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>todd</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [kj] loose =
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>&gt;From: "fluw" &lt;<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:fluwdot@earthlink.net">fluwdot@earthlink.net</A>&gt;<BR>&g=
t;<BR>&gt;fuckin=20
  boring marshall crunch + vocals same as demo (democracy style cookie=20
  <BR>&gt;monster speak) + schzitttttttschzitttttttschzit hi hats =
dominating=20
  <BR>&gt;everything =3D crap<BR><BR>it's a fucking DAMAGE MANUAL song. =
(btw,=20
  anyone in the uk able to help - was <BR>i dreaming or did i hear TDM's =

  'stateless' being played on sara cox's radio <BR>1 show at about ten =
past nine=20
  this morning?!?!). boring guitar sound yes =3D <BR>DM. hi hats ruining =
what=20
  little of value is there =3D DM. the vocals are a <BR>different take =
to the demo=20
  but still hackneyed jazisms. too many bleeps and <BR>tweeks and =
flanged farts=20
  =3D DM. the middle 8 <BR>zero-distortion-almost-out-of-tune is very DM =
'king=20
  mob' etc. and it's <BR>another poor edit when it comes in abruptly =
too. nice=20
  of them to let geordie <BR>plug his guitar in after a minute and a =
half but=20
  it's way too low in the mix <BR>=3D DM. it's an improvement on the =
demo but not=20
  much. dave grohl's hardly <BR>noticable - what a waste of national =
radio=20
  airtime. how anyone can prefer <BR>this to 'implant' i have no idea. =
imagine a=20
  casual fan who hasn't heard <BR>anything since DEMOCRACY - hardly =
gonna blow=20
  them away is it?<BR><BR>&gt;but hey, something new, finally geordie =
proves=20
  unequivocally that jimmy <BR>&gt;page was an influence, as the guitar =
on the=20
  bridge is an obvious rip off of <BR>&gt;1990's page<BR><BR>we already =
knew=20
  that from 'sunset gun'.<BR><BR>&gt;what/who do you wager is on bass=20
  blowhardess?<BR><BR>martin=20
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