[kj] answers & questions
Alexander Smith
gathering@misera.net
Mon, 26 May 2003 19:30:14 -0500
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"it's a still from the film The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 about a siege at a
police station"
Wrong. "The Taking of Pelham 123" (easily in my top ten fave films of all
time) is about the hijacking of a New York City subway car, starring Walter
Mathau, Martin Balsam and one singularly evil Robert Shaw (pre-"Jaws"). It
rocks in ways comparable to Killing Joke at their zenith, and easily ranks
in a must-see list of 70's NYC movies (alongside "French Connection," "The
Warriors," and "Taxi Driver").
Alex in NYC
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From: mike coles <mike@studio-c.co.uk>
To: gathering@misera.net
Subject: [kj] answers & questions
Date: Mon, May 26, 2003, 12:15 PM
&
derek driddle asked
Hi mike
as we are on the suject of killing joke Sleeves
I was wondering if you can tell me anything about the Origin of the B/W
photo on the Reverse side of the Wardance Sleeve
Thanks
If my memory serves me right it's a still from the film The Taking of Pelham
1-2-3 about a siege at a police station
...and now for Alex in NYC
Some trivia questions that I don't know the answers to re: artwork:
(1) What is the building on the front (and back) of the "Eighties" sleeve?
You should know that Alex, it's in NYC just like you.
(2) Did Big Paul really draw the sleeve for "A New Day"?
(3) Are there any pictures of the original design for REVELTATIONS (i.e.
with badge?)
(4) On the cover of NIGHT TIME, where are the band standing (on a dock? in a
basement?)
I wasn't involved in any of these but I'll ask around
(5) Who is that on the cover of FIRE DANCES?
some photographer's model
(6) What is the origin of the little girl on the beach illustration on the
"Let's All Go" sleeve?
A painting that I found in an art magazine called "Colour" published in
1912, and yes I do have the original.
But I always thought it was a little boy. Oh dear...
(7) Is that indeed Ron Reagan on the sleeve of "Empire Song"?
Don't know, wasn't involved, but I'll ask
(8) Did you (Mike Coles) ever hear from any of the unfortunate souls whose
shilhoettes adorn the front cover of the first album (escaping from a gas
attack, I believe)?
They were irish teenagers running away from British troops in Derry,
Northern Ireland and funnily enough I have actually thought about going
there and tracking them down
(9) What is the significance of the placement of minute and hour hands on
the Malicious Damage clock?
The very first positioning was the time the first atom bomb went off in
Hiroshima. I'd just visited the museum there.
I thought of using an actual photo of a watch from the time but I decided to
smash up my own clock instead.
And, yes I still have it! And strangely enough Manic Street Preachers used
that watch picture many years later!
(10) Please explain the visuals on the EXTREMITIES tour shirt (blonde twins
watching a television set with the crucifixion therein, dead body [Youth?]
lying in zebra crossing, creepy hands from stage-right over a candle, etc.)
I originally did that for Red Beat in 1980 but Killing Joke got jealous and
said they wanted to use it. It then didn't get used until Raven was was
round my place ten years later when we were doing Extremities and he asked
if he could have it for a t-shirt.
And if you really want to know what it means, read my brain!
And today I'm wearing brown socks and had pizza for lunch.
Amen.
St Michael of Coles
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"it's a still from the film The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3 about a s=
iege at a police station"<BR>
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Wrong. "The Taking of Pelham 123" (easily in my top ten fave film=
s of all time) is about the hijacking of a New York City subway car, starrin=
g Walter Mathau, Martin Balsam and one singularly evil Robert Shaw (pre-&quo=
t;Jaws"). It rocks in ways comparable to Killing Joke at their zenith, =
and easily ranks in a must-see list of 70's NYC movies (alongside "Fren=
ch Connection," "The Warriors," and "Taxi Driver").=
<BR>
<BR>
Alex in NYC<BR>
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From: mike coles <mike@studio-c.co.uk><BR>
To: gathering@misera.net<BR>
Subject: [kj] answers & questions<BR>
Date: Mon, May 26, 2003, 12:15 PM<BR>
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derek driddle asked<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#FF0000">Hi mike<BR>
as we are on the suject of killing joke Sleeves<BR>
I was wondering if you can tell me anything about the Origin of the B/W pho=
to on the Reverse side of the Wardance Sleeve<BR>
Thanks<BR>
</FONT>If my memory serves me right it's a still from the film The Taking o=
f Pelham 1-2-3 about a siege at a police station<BR>
<BR>
...and now for Alex in NYC<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#FF0000">Some trivia questions that I don't know the answers t=
o re: artwork:<BR>
</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#FF0000">(1) What is the building on the front (and back) of t=
he "Eighties" sleeve?<BR>
</FONT>You should know that Alex, it's in NYC just like you.<BR>
<BR>
(<FONT COLOR=3D"#FF0000">2) Did Big Paul really draw the sleeve for "A N=
ew Day"?<BR>
(3) Are there any pictures of the original design for<I> REVELTATIONS</I> (=
i.e. with badge?)<BR>
(4) On the cover of<I> NIGHT TIME</I>, where are the band standing (on a do=
ck? in a basement?)<BR>
</FONT>I wasn't involved in any of these but I'll ask around<BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#FF0000">(5) Who is that on the cover of<I> FIRE DANCES</I>?<B=
R>
</FONT>some photographer's model<BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#FF0000">(6) What is the origin of the little girl on the beac=
h illustration on the "Let's All Go" sleeve?<BR>
</FONT>A painting that I found in an art magazine called "Colour"=
published in 1912, and yes I do have the original.<BR>
But I always thought it was a little boy. Oh dear...<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#FF0000">(7) Is that indeed Ron Reagan on the sleeve of "=
Empire Song"?<BR>
</FONT>Don't know, wasn't involved, but I'll ask<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#FF0000">(8) Did you (Mike Coles) ever hear from any of the un=
fortunate souls whose shilhoettes adorn the front cover of the first album (=
escaping from a gas attack, I believe)?<BR>
</FONT>They were irish teenagers running away from British troops in Derry,=
Northern Ireland and funnily enough I have actually thought about going the=
re and tracking them down<BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#FF0000">(9) What is the significance of the placement of minu=
te and hour hands on the Malicious Damage clock?<BR>
</FONT>The very first positioning was the time the first atom bomb went off=
in Hiroshima. I'd just visited the museum there.<BR>
I thought of using an actual photo of a watch from the time but I decided t=
o smash up my own clock instead.<BR>
And, yes I still have it! And strangely enough Manic Street Preachers used =
that watch picture many years later!<BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#FF0000">(10) Please explain the visuals on the<I> EXTREMITIES=
</I> tour shirt (blonde twins watching a television set with the crucifixion=
therein, dead body [Youth?] lying in zebra crossing, creepy hands from stag=
e-right over a candle, etc.)<BR>
</FONT>I originally did that for Red Beat in 1980 but Killing Joke got jeal=
ous and said they wanted to use it. It then didn't get used until Raven was =
was round my place ten years later when we were doing Extremities and he ask=
ed if he could have it for a t-shirt.<BR>
And if you really want to know what it means, read my brain!<BR>
<BR>
And today I'm wearing brown socks and had pizza for lunch.<BR>
<BR>
Amen.<BR>
St Michael of Coles<BR>
-- <BR>
Visit our web site at <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.studio-c.co.uk</U=
></FONT> and buy hi-res images for only ten pounds from the skylite zone<BR>
<BR>
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