[kj] interview

[Mark Kolmar]

Check this and read with any due skepticism:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essayaninterestingday.html

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/bush-911.htm

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/bush-911.mov
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/bush-911-small.mov

--Mark

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, fluw wrote:

> i had two blood relatives within a ball toss of both the pentagon and the wtc. a brother and his wife in nyc. and an uncle in d.c. who works in the pentagon. was it your intention to imply that, it is offensive for jaz to make such a mockery of such serious questions? then i agree with you.
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> obviously jaz sees the falseness of what conventional belief on this topic ignores with bliss. unfortunately jaz seemed motivated in the interview to rush the issue into the limelight but made clumsy references that are far from tactical devices for intrigue into a serious issue.
> was he using killing joke as a vehicle for this topic for personal entertainment spectacle, or for the sake of notorious publicity, or truth seeking, or all three.
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> i think jaz just "staged" is comment. it was a stilted attempt to get some fire into the interview. and it flopped. loose cannon is autobiographical ?
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> as for the implications, however phrased. i do not find it offensive to suggest a possible link between 911 and US intelligence's possible complicity. whether some US intelligence was involved through covert complicity, or that 911 was merely a massive intelligence failure and bin laden's zealots getting lucky with the collapse?!! the holes are there and should be investigated.
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> many people who actually lost relatives on 911 ( a bunch of which i met feb.15th/03, at the war opposition rally in mid town manhattan) are very very angry at the blatant falsehoods this administration has promoted and exploited regarding this tragedy, compounded by the bush administration's successful attempts to block the investigation of the intelligence failures leading up to 911:  http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/907379.asp?cp1=1
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> pr 001 - to ask for elaboration into the historical covert atrocities as a dictate to gathering how condescending
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: pr 001
>   To: gathering@misera.net
>   Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:17 AM
>   Subject: Re: [kj] interview
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>   >From: "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
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>   >oh i wouldn't say it is offensive to suggest,
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>   i do. and there are people on this list who lost close relatives on 9-11 i
>   wonder how they feel about it. also, he wasn't suggesting it, he was stating
>   it as fact. (well, i haven't heard the interview actually, but that's the
>   impression i got from the quote.)
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>   >history tells us the likelihood that it WASN'T staged is rare.
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>   how does history tell us this? you're going to have to elaborate on this
>   claim, todd. and don't just say JFK.
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>   >but i think the term he used, 'staged', is what is incorrect...more like
>   >the hijackers where accommodated, their plans harbored, and covertly
>   >accompliced.
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>   yes, but he DID use the term "staged" and so did you. he is claiming that
>   the powers that be convinced a bunch of arab zealots to give up their own
>   lives so that the USA may invade two arab nations.
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>   like i said, it would be reasonable to suggest that it is possible the
>   americans allowed it to happen, but to even state that as hard fact betrays
>   a hopelessly deluded mind. to flat out claim that is was perpetrated by the
>   USA is nothing short of mental illness. that's how consipiracy theorists
>   give themselves away, they don't suggest things as possible but state them
>   as unquestionable.
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>   someone really needs to give jaz a slap in the face and tell him to stop
>   pretending he's noam chomsky because he isn't. i prefer his more personal
>   lyrics, his geopolitics bore me. and he's doing the anti-war movement harm
>   by making them look stupid. for example, i agree that technically blair is a
>   war criminal by the definition, but when you make that powerful accusation
>   alongside such ridiculous claptrap you weaken its effect.
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