[kj] interview (Twin Towers)

wardance gathering@misera.net
Thu, 26 Jun 2003 21:27:01 +0200


<Would you believe it,
> somewhat ironically, the original 1993 attack on the World Trade Centre
> occurred on 26th February - Jaz Coleman's and Killing Joke's birthday !?!


Believe it or not, but  september the 11th is my own birthday date !!!...
(I was born on 11/09/1972)

;-)

Hans Wehrwolf


----- Original Message -----
From: "Antoni Adamiak" <antoni@clara.net>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] interview (Twin Towers)


> Following this discussion, I've started reading a book I'd been meaning to
> read for a long time - "The New Jackals - Ramzi Yousef, Osama bin Laden
and
> the future of terrorism" by Simon Reeve. This book, first published in
1999
> is flagged as one of the New York Times' Bestsellers. Would you believe
it,
> somewhat ironically, the original 1993 attack on the World Trade Centre
> occurred on 26th February - Jaz Coleman's and Killing Joke's birthday !?!
> Although only 6 people died in that 1993 attack, I'm probably not alone in
> not recalling that over a thousand people were injured.
>
> Regards,
>
> Antoni
>
> * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Antoni Adamiak" <antoni@clara.net>
> To: <gathering@misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] interview
>
>
> > I think you are both right - I probably should have used the word
> > "perpetrators" ...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Antoni
> >
> > * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Greyson Stoehr" <greygrrl@yahoo.com>
> > To: <gathering@misera.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kj] interview
> >
> >
> > > The architects of the Twin Towers themselves did not
> > > believe the towers would collapse.  They were designed
> > > to withstand the impact of being hit with airplanes
> > > and jets, but in retrospect, they had not taken into
> > > consideration the affect of almost entirely full tanks
> > > of burning jet fuel on the steel frame that was to
> > > prevent collapse.  The lead architect did a very
> > > tearful interview on PBS and explained how the design
> > > had failed in that respect.
> > >
> > > Grey
> > > --- Alexander  Smith <vassifer@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "I suspect that not even the architects of the
> > > > attack had any idea that the
> > > > twin towers would collapse"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hmmmm. Got to quibble with you there, Antoni. Word
> > > > on the (Arab) street is
> > > > that given Bin Laden's background as an accomplished
> > > > engineer, taking the
> > > > towers all the way down in one fell swoop was part
> > > > of the plan from the very
> > > > beginning; not just to wound them, but to utterly
> > > > destroy them.
> > > >
> > > > Sad but true.
> > > >
> > > > Alex in NYC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > >From: "Antoni Adamiak" <antoni@clara.net>
> > > > >To: <gathering@misera.net>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [kj] interview
> > > > >Date: Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 12:49 PM
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >I don't think that Jaz articulated the *conspiracy*
> > > > theory that well - a
> > > > >real cynic might argue that considering the
> > > > available intelligence, how was
> > > > >it allowed to happen ? How could 19 dubious foreign
> > > > nationals, who must have
> > > > >been under some sort of surveillance, board 4 (or
> > > > was it 5 flights)
> > > > >simultaneously without anyone having a clue what
> > > > was about to unfold. Of
> > > > >course, hindsight's a wonderful thing ... but if
> > > > anyone was looking for a
> > > > >trigger to engage in a major foreign policy
> > > > operation, here it was ... I
> > > > >agree that it is monstrous to suggest 9/11 was
> > > > staged, but I kinda suspect
> > > > >that the security authorities knew more about the
> > > > movements & intentions of
> > > > >these guys than they have let on (we may find out
> > > > more in 30 years time) ...
> > > > >I suspect that not even the architects of the
> > > > attack had any idea that the
> > > > >twin towers would collapse therefore I think this
> > > > is where the conspiracy
> > > > >theory really breaks down as that was probably an
> > > > unexpected (and
> > > > >horrifically tragic) development ...
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > >Antoni
> > > > >
> > > > >* http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Fuck all utilitarians"
> > > > <deathforetold@dolang.com>
> > > > >To: <gathering@misera.net>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:11 AM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [kj] interview
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> I agree with you on this one - this is an absurd
> > > > suggestion - although
> > > > >> others such as "Blair is a war criminal" were
> > > > right on
> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> From: "pr 001" <stay_one_jump_ahead@hotmail.com>
> > > > >> To: <gathering@misera.net>
> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 11:28 AM
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [kj] interview
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > >From: "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >"911staged - just too damn convenient" - i'd
> > > > like to have a chat with
> > > > >him
> > > > >> > >on this one.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > this is what i'm talking about. how offensive
> > > > is this? seriously. fair
> > > > >> > enough raise the point as a question - perhaps
> > > > it was staged - but to
> > > > >just
> > > > >> > come out with these conspiracy theories coz
> > > > they give you the horn is
> > > > >> > pathetic. what a twat he is.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >anyone know more about the pic in the iceland
> > > > paper featuring geordie
> > > > >and
> > > > >> > >jaz in the fight mentioned in the interview ?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > not really but i do remember him mentioning
> > > > trouble with the daily
> > > > >papers
> > > > >> on
> > > > >> > the interview disc. i think the fact that he
> > > > got in the national press
> > > > >> > (rather than the music press) appealed to his
> > > > ego.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > >
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