[kj] interview (Twin Towers)

Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:41:31 +0100

Following this discussion, I've started reading a book I'd been meaning to
read for a long time - "The New Jackals - Ramzi Yousef, Osama bin Laden and
the future of terrorism" by Simon Reeve. This book, first published in 1999
is flagged as one of the New York Times' Bestsellers. Would you believe it,
somewhat ironically, the original 1993 attack on the World Trade Centre
occurred on 26th February - Jaz Coleman's and Killing Joke's birthday !?!
Although only 6 people died in that 1993 attack, I'm probably not alone in
not recalling that over a thousand people were injured.

Regards,

Antoni

* http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *

----- Original Message -----
From: "Antoni Adamiak" <antoni@clara.net>
To: <gathering@misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] interview

> I think you are both right - I probably should have used the word
> "perpetrators" ...
>
> Regards,
>
> Antoni
>
> * http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greyson Stoehr" <greygrrl@yahoo.com>
> To: <gathering@misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] interview
>
>
> > The architects of the Twin Towers themselves did not
> > believe the towers would collapse.  They were designed
> > to withstand the impact of being hit with airplanes
> > and jets, but in retrospect, they had not taken into
> > consideration the affect of almost entirely full tanks
> > of burning jet fuel on the steel frame that was to
> > prevent collapse.  The lead architect did a very
> > tearful interview on PBS and explained how the design
> > had failed in that respect.
> >
> > Grey
> > --- Alexander  Smith <vassifer@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > "I suspect that not even the architects of the
> > > attack had any idea that the
> > > twin towers would collapse"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmmm. Got to quibble with you there, Antoni. Word
> > > on the (Arab) street is
> > > that given Bin Laden's background as an accomplished
> > > engineer, taking the
> > > towers all the way down in one fell swoop was part
> > > of the plan from the very
> > > beginning; not just to wound them, but to utterly
> > > destroy them.
> > >
> > > Sad but true.
> > >
> > > Alex in NYC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > >From: "Antoni Adamiak" <antoni@clara.net>
> > > >To: <gathering@misera.net>
> > > >Subject: Re: [kj] interview
> > > >Date: Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 12:49 PM
> > > >
> > >
> > > >I don't think that Jaz articulated the *conspiracy*
> > > theory that well - a
> > > >real cynic might argue that considering the
> > > available intelligence, how was
> > > >it allowed to happen ? How could 19 dubious foreign
> > > nationals, who must have
> > > >been under some sort of surveillance, board 4 (or
> > > was it 5 flights)
> > > >simultaneously without anyone having a clue what
> > > was about to unfold. Of
> > > >course, hindsight's a wonderful thing ... but if
> > > anyone was looking for a
> > > >trigger to engage in a major foreign policy
> > > operation, here it was ... I
> > > >agree that it is monstrous to suggest 9/11 was
> > > staged, but I kinda suspect
> > > >that the security authorities knew more about the
> > > movements & intentions of
> > > >these guys than they have let on (we may find out
> > > more in 30 years time) ...
> > > >I suspect that not even the architects of the
> > > attack had any idea that the
> > > >twin towers would collapse therefore I think this
> > > is where the conspiracy
> > > >theory really breaks down as that was probably an
> > > unexpected (and
> > > >horrifically tragic) development ...
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >
> > > >Antoni
> > > >
> > > >* http://home.clara.net/antoni/ *
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Fuck all utilitarians"
> > > <deathforetold@dolang.com>
> > > >To: <gathering@misera.net>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:11 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: [kj] interview
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> I agree with you on this one - this is an absurd
> > > suggestion - although
> > > >> others such as "Blair is a war criminal" were
> > > right on
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "pr 001" <stay_one_jump_ahead@hotmail.com>
> > > >> To: <gathering@misera.net>
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 11:28 AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [kj] interview
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > >From: "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >"911staged - just too damn convenient" - i'd
> > > like to have a chat with
> > > >him
> > > >> > >on this one.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > this is what i'm talking about. how offensive
> > > is this? seriously. fair
> > > >> > enough raise the point as a question - perhaps
> > > it was staged - but to
> > > >just
> > > >> > come out with these conspiracy theories coz
> > > they give you the horn is
> > > >> > pathetic. what a twat he is.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >anyone know more about the pic in the iceland
> > > paper featuring geordie
> > > >and
> > > >> > >jaz in the fight mentioned in the interview ?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > not really but i do remember him mentioning
> > > trouble with the daily
> > > >papers
> > > >> on
> > > >> > the interview disc. i think the fact that he
> > > got in the national press
> > > >> > (rather than the music press) appealed to his
> > > ego.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > >
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