[kj] interview
Rob Moss
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I took it from what Jaz was saying was that he thought that Bush et al had a hand in the actual planning and execution of the attack so that they could create a scenario whereby they could legitamise the war with Iraq.
Madness. Bush is an areshole but that???? No way.
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I agree with Fluw on this one. When I first heard the word "staged," I was
initially shocked and appalled, as "staged" seems to imply that it was
somehow a "hoax" and/or "didn't really happen" (and as someone who lives
just a bit downwind of the site, I can very much attest that it did).
However, if Jaz is implying that Dubya & the Powers That Unfortunately Be
knew about the plan prior to its execution,.....well, at this rate, I
wouldn't put it past him. I'm not convinced there was a palpable connection
between Al Qaeda and Iraq, but Bush & Co. managed to blur the lines through
a muddled campaign of miscommunication and obfuscation in order to find
justification for his war, so clearly deceiving his masses isn't something
new to him.
Alex in NYC
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Subject: Re: [kj] interview
Date: Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 12:19 PM
oh i wouldn't say it is offensive to suggest, history tells us the
likelihood that it WASN't staged is rare. but i think the term he used,
'staged', is what is incorrect...more like the hijackers where accommodated,
their plans harbored, and covertly accompliced.
anyway, looking forward to the backstage chatter about this one come fall 03
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>"911staged - just too damn convenient" - i'd like to have a chat with him
>on this one.
this is what i'm talking about. how offensive is this? seriously. fair
enough raise the point as a question - perhaps it was staged - but to just
come out with these conspiracy theories coz they give you the horn is
pathetic. what a twat he is.
>anyone know more about the pic in the iceland paper featuring geordie and
>jaz in the fight mentioned in the interview ?
not really but i do remember him mentioning trouble with the daily papers on
the interview disc. i think the fact that he got in the national press
(rather than the music press) appealed to his ego.
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I agree with Fluw on this one. When I first heard the word "staged,&qu=
ot; I was initially shocked and appalled, as "staged" seems to imp=
ly that it was somehow a "hoax" and/or "didn't really happen&=
quot; (and as someone who lives just a bit downwind of the site, I can very =
much attest that it did). However, if Jaz is implying that Dubya & the P=
owers That Unfortunately Be knew about the plan prior to its execution,.....=
well, at this rate, I wouldn't put it past him. I'm not convinced there was =
a palpable connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq, but Bush & Co. managed =
to blur the lines through a muddled campaign of miscommunication and obfusca=
tion in order to find justification for his war, so clearly deceiving his ma=
sses isn't something new to him.<BR>
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Alex in NYC<BR>
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From: "fluw" <fluwdot@earthlink.net><BR>
To: <gathering@misera.net><BR>
Subject: Re: [kj] interview<BR>
Date: Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 12:19 PM<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2">oh i wouldn't say it is offensive to suggest, hi=
story tells us the likelihood that it WASN't staged is rare. but i think the=
term he used, 'staged', is what is incorrect...more like the hijackers wher=
e accommodated, their plans harbored, and covertly accompliced.<BR>
</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">anyway, looking forward to the backstage chatter about this =
one come fall 03<BR>
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>From: "fluw" <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>fluwdot@earthlink.n=
et</U></FONT> <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>mailto:fluwdot@earthlink.net</U><=
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>"911staged - just too damn convenient" - i'd like to have a c=
hat with him <BR>
>on this one.<BR>
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this is what i'm talking about. how offensive is this? seriously. fair <BR>
enough raise the point as a question - perhaps it was staged - but to just =
<BR>
come out with these conspiracy theories coz they give you the horn is <BR>
pathetic. what a twat he is.<BR>
<BR>
>anyone know more about the pic in the iceland paper featuring geordie a=
nd <BR>
>jaz in the fight mentioned in the interview ?<BR>
<BR>
not really but i do remember him mentioning trouble with the daily papers o=
n <BR>
the interview disc. i think the fact that he got in the national press <BR>
(rather than the music press) appealed to his ego.<BR>
<BR>
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