[kj] NO MORE OT EVER

[Jester]

To me, no OT means no talk ever about our own lives. No talk about various
members musical endeavors, no talk of family and it really would be a very
cold dark place here. No friendships would ever be formed if we stopped all
OT. With no OT, things would just suck, and I honestly think the gathering
would die off. You may think it sucks with all the OT, but it would really
fucking blow if there ere ONLY talk of Killing Joke.

Cliff, we would not be friends, I would not know about Alex and Peg's first
child coming into the world in a few months, I would not have known Dave
Axford the way I do, and have phone calls from round the world, like the
call we made a to Bo a few weeks ago, or Alexi calling from Chi town the da=
y
the Joke was there. We have personally made a shit load of good friends due
to the gathering, and a lot of it has to do with the fact that we all post
OT sometimes.

Also, as in my earlier post...the OT are in a round about way about the
Joke. That argument has been made by several, and does hold a lot of weight=
.
If there is no OT, why even have an email list? Just go to the web site and
see what's going on. No need for discussion bout it really, as that might g=
o
OT, as it so often times does.

On 12/21/03 12:10 PM, "Alexander Smith" <vassifer@earthlink.net> wrote:

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> Look, I apologize for this -- and many other -- OT discussions. Cliff,
> you know I love ya, but imposing a "NO OT EVER" policy is postively
> Talibanesque. To kick a very dead horse, imagine going to a party and
> only being allowed to discuss one, solitary topic. It's draconian.
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> Regardless of any political/religious/ethical/aesthetic differences
> among all the members of the Gathering, I doubt there's a solitary
> individual among us who doesn't regard Killing Joke as the
> unquestionable priority of the list. But, y'know, how many times can we
> debate certain *ON* topic subjects like "OUTSIDE THE GATE: Crap or
> Not?" or "Who is a better skinsman? BPF or Atkins or Animal from
> Dr.Teeth & the Electric Mayhem?"  I think a little OT is fine. It also
> aptly demonstrates what a vast reach Killing Joke spans. For example,
> until these recent weeks, I never in a million years would have
> expected as many hardline Right-Wing Hawks and former evangelical
> christians to count themselves as fans of Killing Joke. It's a
> testament to the band's appeal. I also personally do find it
> fascinating to hear what the cross-section of folks has to say on a
> variety of subjects. While Peter West and Culture Virus and Jester Joe
> and myself and many others may have wildly different opinions on the
> State of the World, we all come together as fans of Killing Joke. I
> think that's interesting, myself.
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> Obviously, some discussions carry on too long or get too snipey and
> personal. While the entertainment value of these sorts of discussions
> can be high (though not while you're involved in one, I can tell you
> that), I can understand how it could become a bit of a mailbox-clogging
> bore to have to sift through them. So, apologies for that. But
> declaring a Fatwa on OT posts seems a bit narrow to me.
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> But, y'know, what the fuck do I know anyway? I'm a scarred hypocritcal
> demagogue who uses the Bible as a doorstop.
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> "You'd Wipe Out Spaztics if You Had the Chance,....but Jesus Wouldn't
> Like it! NOOOOOO!'
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> Alex in nYc
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> On Sunday, December 21, 2003, at 03:29 PM, Will E Scheipers wrote:
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>> Get ready for a bagful of vengeance then, OT lives forever.
>> =A0
>> From,
>> Will
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>> On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 02:39:14 -0900 "Cliff and Kara Livingston"
>> <antifrz@alaska.net> writes:
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>> NO MORE OFF TOPIC E-MAILS EVER...i want to instigate no more OT
>> e-mail,sick of this crap...
>> Killing Joke is a great band,and i want to be a part of this group,but
>> i don't want any more goiddamn OT e-ails. ENUF ALREADY.
>> the next person who sends OT is getting my wrath.....and anyone else
>> who sends OT is getting 100 plus OT personal mail from me ...i have
>> 1,900 gathering e-mails unread and i've had enuf bullshit...please
>> send info on Killing Joke...but give us a rest from the crap...if you
>> have to talk shit,please write on amessage board or go to the
>> chatroom,ya wankers. UN OT CLIFF
>> =A0
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