[kj] ps

P gathering@misera.net
Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:23:57 +0100


Actually when we were here petitioning against the war here in Prague, vast
majority of people were opposed to war (for very same reasons many on the
list already explained). Only rarely someone came to us and asked "who is
paying you for doing this?" and I have usually replied "Sadam Hussein and
Osama Bin Laden." I did it in order to ridicule the people who ask such an
extremely stupid question and who cant imagine that they would do something
for what they believe in instead of money. It was possible for me to say
that because it is so absurd that it could not have been misunderstood and
many people actually laughed about.

and what is the point of saying this story?

Peter is using similarly absurd statements, but he MEANS it....

Pavel

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-admin@misera.net [mailto:gathering-admin@misera.net]On
Behalf Of Phillipps Marc
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 4:34 PM
To: 'gathering@misera.net'
Subject: RE: [kj] ps


>Please read my earlier posts.If you were against him being
>toppled,logically,You must of been for him staying in power

Peter,

I'm sure I speak for a lot of the "Anti-War" people when I say that we
weren't against Hussein being toppled, we were against the methods and
arguments used by the government(s) who did the toppling . . .

There is no black and white (moral right Vs moral wrong) in this issue, so
your assertion that anyone who was antiwar is therefore pro Hussein is very,
very flawed.

At the end of the day, it doesn't seem that your views will be changed by
anything that people have said here (applause for the arguers by the way)
and I seriously doubt that anyone who was against the war has suddenly
slapped their forehead and thought "Damn, by marching I was supporting
Saddam!" so is there any reason to prolong an argument that you are clearly
loosing ?

Anyway, Killing Joke . . . are they crap or what ? :o)


Marc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	peter.west410 [SMTP:peter.west410@ntlworld.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:07 AM
> To:	gathering@misera.net
> Subject:	Re: [kj] ps
>
> Please read my earlier posts.If you were against him being
> toppled,logically,You must of been for him staying in power
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Jpwhkj@aol.com>
> To: <gathering@misera.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [kj] ps
>
>
> > Peter,
> >
> > Actually, you made the equation anti-war = pro-Saddam, and then said
> they
> were like nazi-sympathisers.
> >
> > Have you really swallowed the idea that anti-war = pro-Saddam (as
> opposed
> merely to using it as a handy insult)? If so, that says a lot for the
> level
> of thought you've put into this subject.
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >I did nt acually call anybody a nazi,I just likened the nazi
> sympathisers
> of the thirties to the saddam sympathisers of the day,hardley the same is
> it.
> > > Appologies if i sent anybody a personal E -mail tonight,I pressed the
> wrong button
> > >
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