[kj] Governments Should Stop Being A Killing Joke - The Light truthpaper interviews Jaz

Thu Apr 8 07:54:09 EDT 2021

"...the wearing of masks has been demonstrably effective in curtailing the contagion"

No. It hasn't.

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From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
Sent: 03 April 2021 18:35
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Subject: Re: [kj] Governments Should Stop Being A Killing Joke - The Light truthpaper interviews Jaz

I mean, on the one hand, it really is "classic" Jaz Coleman. There has truly never been a point wherein he HASN'T be preoccupied with conspiracies. From "Are You Receiving?" through PYLON (and, I guess, "The Day The Earth Went Mad," not that I bought that), Jaz's worldview has been singularly defined by an inherent skepticism about (and a contrarianism towards) the party line, so to speak. It's what he is. It's what he does. It's nothing new. But, I have to say, in this instance, it gives me pause. He's certainly said some outrageously indefensible things in the past ("I want to be a suicide bomber," etc.), but the puffy-chested espousal of not wearing masks in this instance just strikes me as a bridge too far. Okay, for the sake of argument, let's go along with Jaz's assertion that the pandemic (notice I did not put that word in quotation marks?) was a weaponized, orchestrated initiative --- even if that *was* indeed the case, the wearing of masks has been demonstrably effective in curtailing the contagion. So, whether it was caused by a sinister cabal or it was indeed some kind of accident or natural occurrence is immaterial. By not wearing a mask and endorsing same, he is being willfully irresponsible and ostensibly putting his fellow human being at risk by his lack of consideration. This is all my interpretation and opinion, so ... y'know ... make of it what you will, but I find this particular stance pretty indefensible (not too unlike Lydon backing Trump). My two cents.
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Subject: Re: [kj] Governments Should Stop Being A Killing Joke - The Light truthpaper interviews Jaz

It does sound ominous when he says:

"I am the archetypal fool; I will talk about the things people don't want to talk about. I will continue to do so, until they shut me up. When that is? Couldn't give a fuck!"

I feel the guy has a right to free speech and free expression as we all should as individuals with our own personal opinions and beliefs, while not agreeing 100% with everything he says.

There has in fact been a backlash over the past few weeks from the BBC, Tories and Lib Dems to that particular issue being pushed through people's letterboxes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/56420379
[https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/816D/production/_117633133_gettyimages-1296965065.jpg]<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/56420379>
Covid-19 leaflets: How pandemic disinformation went offline<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/56420379>
If you thought misleading coronavirus information was just circulating online - think again.
www.bbc.co.uk

https://www.libdemvoice.org/the-word-truth-is-being-hijacked-by-fake-news-conspiracy-theorists-who-claim-their-dark-ideas-are-light-67040.html
[https://www.libdemvoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/The_Truth.png]<https://www.libdemvoice.org/the-word-truth-is-being-hijacked-by-fake-news-conspiracy-theorists-who-claim-their-dark-ideas-are-light-67040.html>
The word “truth” is being hijacked by fake news conspiracy theorists who claim their dark ideas are light - Liberal Democrat Voice<https://www.libdemvoice.org/the-word-truth-is-being-hijacked-by-fake-news-conspiracy-theorists-who-claim-their-dark-ideas-are-light-67040.html>
There have been too many victims of Covid-19. People for whom coronavirus was the primary cause of death. Many others whose death was accelerated or whose recovery from other diseases was ...
www.libdemvoice.org
http://www.wellington-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=119727&headline=Anti-vaccine
[http://www.wellington-today.co.uk/images/news/2021/4020_John-Thorne-and-The-Light-newspaper.jpg]<http://www.wellington-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=119727&headline=Anti-vaccine>
Anti-vaccine paper ‘pedals conspiracy theory madness’<http://www.wellington-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=119727&headline=Anti-vaccine>
DISTRIBUTION of anti-Covid vaccination newspaper The Light to homes in Wellington and surrounding areas was this week condemned in the strongest terms by Somerset county councillor John Thorne.
www.wellington-today.co.uk

The Guardian was a bit more balanced and actually interviewed the guy who produces the paper.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/truthpaper-the-anti-lockdown-newspaper-bypassing-online-fact-checkers
[https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d276353781e7f3dc01aebdb6c0147b99909221cf/46_281_5032_3022/master/5032.jpg?width=1200&height=630&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&overlay-align=bottom%2Cleft&overlay-width=100p&overlay-base64=L2ltZy9zdGF0aWMvb3ZlcmxheXMvdGctZGVmYXVsdC5wbmc&enable=upscale&s=83e897b1d21fec94909d671142d5b834]<https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/truthpaper-the-anti-lockdown-newspaper-bypassing-online-fact-checkers>
How an anti-lockdown 'truthpaper' bypasses online factcheckers | Newspapers & magazines - the Guardian<https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/27/truthpaper-the-anti-lockdown-newspaper-bypassing-online-fact-checkers>
W hen the factcheckers tried to find the source of a viral photo that was spreading across Facebook, they were confused. The picture – which had been uploaded by users in the UK, US, Australia ...
www.theguardian.com

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Subject: Re: [kj] Governments Should Stop Being A Killing Joke - The Light truthpaper interviews Jaz

https://thelightpaper.co.uk/assets/pdf/The-Light-Issue-6.pdf

‘kin’ Hell…

I can honestly hope the '#cancelled mob'™ don’t hear about this.

In the past this would have been ignored as the raving of an idio,err eccentric artist, but now, it’s career ending.
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