[kj] Bloodsport

[Paul Rangecroft]

Thanks, Jim. Sounds plausible. He was a kind-hearted soul.

On 9/9/18, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
> I do recall Raven saying something, but I can't remember whether it was on
> the Gathering or a personal email to me, so I'm not sure if other people
> heard/read it as well. Raven was talking about his pitbulls. One of them had
> just given birth to pups, so he was sleeping outside in their compound, to
> make sure no-one tried to steal them, because they fetch a high price as
> fighting dogs.
>
> It's hardly conclusive, but I know Raven was very fond of his pitbulls. I
> have a Zilch photoshoot that prominently features one of the pitbulls
> sitting next to Raven in several shots. It's always struck me as a classic
> master-resembling-pet example. I heard his remarks about fighting dogs, but
> I thought then that he cared too much about his precious pitbulls to let
> them be used for fighting.
>
> Jim.
>
> On Sun, 9/9/18, Pagan <scotgothwitch at sky.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [kj] Bloodsport
>  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
>  Date: Sunday, 9 September, 2018, 17:16
>
>  Years
>  and years ago in the old Gathering chat room, Raven made a
>  comment about fighting the dogs that he bred.  I wasn't
>  sure if he was joking or not.  Some of the other Gatherers
>  in the chat, and who knew Raven personally, assured me that
>  he would never do such a thing and that he was only
>  joking.
>  Maybe because
>  I don't find dog fighting or hunting to be particularly
>  amusing topics, is the reason why I don't understand
>  people making these type of statements/jokes, about
>  themselves, when it could be so easily misconstrued.  Not
>  everyone at that gig would necessarily know Jaz's
>  history of talking complete nonsense at times.
>  I do think Jaz was just talking
>  rubbish here but must admit that him qualifying hunting for
>  food, not just pleasure, did give me pause for
>  thought.
>
>  -------- Original
>  message --------From: Were Wolf
>  <werewolf68 at hotmail.co.uk> Date: 09/09/2018
>   16:00  (GMT+00:00) To: "A list about all
>  things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>  <gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj]
>  Bloodsport
>
>
>  Holy fuck
>  that's pretty hardcore even by Jaz's standards. I
>  have a dog and used to have a cat and don't think the
>  Hunting ban should be overturned in England, Scotland and
>  Wales. Didn't Jaz have a pet black cat in the
>   early days of Killing Joke in his Notting Hill flat? In
>  Jaz's book Letters From Cythera (or maybe it was an
>  interview?) doesn't he say he only eats meat once a
>  week or on special feast days? Having said that I tried
>  being a vegetarian for 6 months a few years
>   ago but missed meat too much so I can't really comment
>  without being called a hypocrite...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  From: Gathering
>  <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Paul
>  Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
>
>  Sent: 09 September 2018 07:37
>
>  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>  band!)
>
>  Subject: [kj] Bloodsport
>
>
>
>  What do
>  people think of Jaz's statement at the start of the SF
>  encore
>
>  that he kills animals for pleasure? If it's true then I
>  think I'm done
>
>  with this prick.
>
>
>
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry9P006ZZUo
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>
>  Killing Joke - Set Encore (see
>  description) Live @ DNA Lounge, San Francisco, CA, September
>  4, 2018
>
>  www.youtube.com
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>  Bloodsport - The Death and Resurrection Show - Wardance -
>  Pandemonium
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