[kj] Ha

Tue Oct 31 03:17:08 EDT 2017

Alas no Jim, I've muddled who/what/where/when. I do it a lot.

Was the Taif gig the one where the support got all despondent & kept saying
how crap they were? They all played Firebirds and were actually pretty
good.

On 30 Oct 2017 7:16 p.m., "Jim Harper via Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
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> I dimly remember Raven was supposed to have approached Jaz and Geordie and
> said that he wants back in the band because he can do it better so it's not
> unfeasible that he went to see that lineup first. Would he have asked to
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> On Mon, 30/10/17, fatpotanga . <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:
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>  Ah, was that the
>  Taif one. I definitely remember one there with Raven. Pre
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>  confused. Taif one was a great gig. I was at the
>  front opposite him. Had no idea who he was, just remember a
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>  and there was raven watching intently. Never occurred to me
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>  stolen from. Id borrowed it  and parked on a really dodgy
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>  Can't remember the address, but Manchester
>  International II, if memory serves.  Followed by the
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>  home ;-)  I know you love Extremities, but there are a few
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>  through 1988 and Outside the Gate, and the Joke apparently
>  imploding... and suddenly here they were, with a load of new
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>  doing their soundcheck.  They played something as a band
>  (Frenzy, perhaps?) and then Jaz came and stood at the back
>  and listened while Geordie played Night Time on his own.
>  Jaz was obviously entranced, and so was I.  There were bits
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>  89) and Timewave (London).  Always liked the Fanatic &
>  couldn't understand why it didn't make the album - I
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