[kj] Ha

fatpotanga . fatpotanga at gmail.com
Mon Oct 30 14:55:51 EDT 2017


Ah, was that the Taif one. I definitely remember one there with Raven. Pre
and post Extremities?
I'm getting old and confused.
Taif one was a great gig. I was at the front opposite him. Had no idea who
he was, just remember a manic grin.
At least I think I do...

On 30 Oct 2017 6:39 p.m., "jpwhkj--- via Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
wrote:

> Blimey, Raven was there?  I wonder what he made of Taif...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fatpotanga . <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
> >
> Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:34
> Subject: Re: [kj] Ha
>
> I was there - fantastic gig. I was stood watching the support right at the
> back near the bar, looked to my left and there was raven watching intently.
> Never occurred to me to speak to him.
> I think it was that one my that mum's car got stolen from. Id borrowed it
>  and parked on a really dodgy side street!
>
> I may be remembering it wrong but I think they played there a couple of
> times in fairly close succession.
> Shame the Internationals have gone, they were great venues.
>
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at 17:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <
> gathering at misera.net> wrote:
>
> Can't remember the address, but Manchester International II, if memory
> serves.  Followed by the Kilburn Ballroom in London a couple of nights
> later.
>
> And yeah, it was feckin amazing.
>
> Nostalgic Jamie
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com>
> To: Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:13
> Subject: Re: [kj] Ha
>
> Jamie,
> Was the Manchester gig the one at the International on Plymouth Grove.
> Best KJ gig I've seen.
> Brian.
>
> On 27 October 2017 at 09:58, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net
> > wrote:
>
> Not sure where it would go, but I'd find it a home ;-)  I know you love
> Extremities, but there are a few tracks that don't really do it for me.
>
> The two gigs in question were pretty mental anyway (the Manc one in
> particular featured an ongoing battle between two local gangs).  Basically,
> we'd all suffered our way through 1988 and Outside the Gate, and the Joke
> apparently imploding... and suddenly here they were, with a load of new
> tracks that stood up alongside the old material.  I for one was massively
> relieved!
>
> The Manc gig was also the scene of one of my favourite KJ moments.  Most
> of you have heard it before (probably several times) but I'll mention it
> briefly.
>
> I hitchhiked up to Manchester, and was lucky with my lifts so got there
> mid-afternoon.  I found the venue, and the doors were all open so I
> wondered in and found the Joke doing their soundcheck.  They played
> something as a band (Frenzy, perhaps?) and then Jaz came and stood at the
> back and listened while Geordie played Night Time on his own.  Jaz was
> obviously entranced, and so was I.  There were bits that I'd previously
> assumed were keyboards that were actually guitar.  Hearing Geordie on his
> own was incredible.
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: adrianwason <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke \\(the band!\\) <
> gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:21
> Subject: Re: [kj] Ha
>
> I love the Fanatic!
> Where would you place it on Extremities though?
> Never saw it live, I imagine it was mental!
>
> ----Original message----
> From : rob.moss at gmx.com
> Date : 26/10/2017 - 11:29 (GMTDT)
> To : gathering at misera.net
> Cc : jpwhkj at aol.com
> Subject : Re: [kj] Ha
>
> Never got the Fanatic. I think it’s one they were right to keep back. Like
> Feast Of Fools I find. A bit generic.
>
> I think their quality control
> Is pretty damn good on the whole.
>
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:21, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> wrote:
>
> In fact it's even pretty rare for them to play something and it not appear
> on an official studio release (other than retrospectives etc).  Only ones
> I've personally seen are the Fanatic (which I saw at those two UK gigs in
> spring 89) and Timewave (London).  Always liked the Fanatic & couldn't
> understand why it didn't make the album - I think it's better than some of
> the tracks that did.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
> >
> Sent: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 23:12
> Subject: Re: [kj] Ha
>
> No, I don't think so. Sorry if I caused confusion by appearing to
> suggest that. I was trying to illustrate how relatively rare it is for
> songs to be dropped (either entirely or from albums) at the live stage
> without any sort of studio version or demo. So far the only example
> anyone has been able to come up with (other than 'Take Take Take'
> obviously) is 'The Hive', which was a precursor. I guess there are
> also those very early crap ones like 'You're Being Followed'. I think
> there was an early live version of 'Solitude' that bore absolutely no
> relation to the album version too.
>
> On 10/25/17, T.B. <planetary at socal.rr.com> wrote:
> > 4 Stations Of The Sun has been performed live?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <gathering-bounces at misera.net?>] On Behalf Of Paul
> > Rangecroft
> >
> > Yes, 'The Hive' never saw any kind of official release but it was a
> > precursor (to 'Harlequin'?). 'The Fanatic' has a studio version. So does
> > 'Sun Goes Down'. '4 Stations of the Sun' does too. Well, a demo, anyway.
> I
> > guess it's just a convenient coincidence that Ha! was released with an
> > exclusive track, fancy that.
> >
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