[kj] Ha

[Paul Rangecroft]

I wasn't suggesting that was the only time they ever played it, but it
seems odd that they never did a studio version. It's possible I'm
being too cynical, though - I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Now that's a proper set list! What a tragedy there was a technical
problem, it was obviously a blistering performance.

Jamie: were you pronouncing it to rhyme with "car" - all posh like?!
If so I think maybe you deserved their contempt!

On 10/25/17, Nick Scott via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
> That is a very cynical viewpoint of E'G ;), no such tactics "Take Take Take"
> was
> part of their repertoire circa 1982, a quick look on setlist.fm confirms
> that.
>
> The latter half of 1982 with a few gigs in the US and Canada then back to
> the UK
> shows them including a few songs from 'Fire Dances' recorded in
> February-March
> 1983.
>
> I can assume that with the newly assigned Raven on bass they were in the
> process
> of writing and trying out songs for the forthcoming album, "Take Take Take"
> is
> one that hit the cutting room floor.  Seeing that "Ha" was rushed out in
> November 1982 and as you say the recording machine broke if anything is
> cynical
> it is E'G cashing in on what few tracks they had.
>
> I have always noticed very much a similarity in tone but amended chord
> progression and tempo between the guitar riff of "Good Samaritan" and "Take
> Take
> Take".
>
> Maybe "Take Take Take" was considered alongside "Sun Goes Down" as a B Side
> for
> "Birds Of A Feather", who knows, although a studio version does not look
> likely,
> I am sure with remasters etc we would have heard it by now.
>
> This is a setlist from Glasgow on 26th October 1982, same setlist on 27th
> October 1982 in Manchester.
>
> 1. The Hum
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=The+Hum
> 2. The Fall of Because
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=The+Fall+of+Because
> 3. Pssyche
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Pssyche
> 4. Sun Goes Down
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Sun+Goes+Down
> 5. The Pandys Are Coming
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=The+Pandys+Are+Coming
> 6. We Have Joy
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=We+Have+Joy
> 7. The Gathering
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=The+Gathering
> 8. Take Take Take
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Take+Take+Take
> 9. Empire Song
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Empire+Song
> 10. Change
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Change
> 11. Chop-Chop
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Chop-Chop
> 12. Lust Almighty
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Lust+Almighty
> 13. Tension
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Tension
> 14. Bloodsport
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Bloodsport
> 15. Wardance
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Wardance
> 16. Birds of a Feather
> https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Birds+of+a+Feather
>
>
>
>>
>>     On 23 October 2017 at 21:56 Paul Rangecroft
>> <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     There are bootlegs out there of other songs recorded at the same gig
>>     (actually two nights?) including Birds of a Feather, I think. Yes,
>>     apparently the recording machine broke because someone (Conny Plank?)
>>     used tape that was too heavy. There answer is in The Gathering
>>     archives somewhere. Mike Coles was reading some posts out to Geordie
>>     and he commented on this.
>>
>>     I always assumed Take Take Take was deliberately left off everything
>>     else simply to increase sales of Ha!. KJ were never above such
>>     tactics, particularly in the E'G years.
>>
>>     On 10/23/17, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     > Ah I see, thanks. Always liked TTT - one of Geordie's weirdest
>> riffs,
>>     > always wanted to hear a beefy studio version.
>>     > Never too late, eh...
>>     >
>>     > On 23 October 2017 at 14:47, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >> I think more was recorded but the story I recall is that there was
>> a
>>     >> malfunction so this was all they could use. Certainly nothing in
>> the
>>     >> vaults
>>     >> when I had access to them.
>>     >>
>>     >> TTT. No idea! Not really the greatest of songs so maybe they
>> didn’t
>>     >> bother
>>     >> with studio time. Shame really for documentation....
>>     >>
>>     >> > On 23 Oct 2017, at 13:33, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     >> >
>>     >> > I'm sure these questions have been covered before but what with
>>     >> > the failing memory these days, I'll bring them up again.
>>     >> > Anyone know whether there were more songs recorded at the Ha
>> gig,
>>     >> > or was this in fact the whole gig? If there were more songs, why
>> have
>>     >> > we not heard them?
>>     >> >
>>     >> > and
>>     >> >
>>     >> > Take Take Take - what is the story behind this song? Why was it
>> never
>>     >> > on a studio recording, and was it ever played any other time
>> apart
>>     >> > from
>>     >> > on this tour? Has Jaz or anyone from the band ever spoken about
>> this
>>     >> song?
>>     >> >
>>     >> > These things still bug me, 35 years on.
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