[kj] Ha

Neil Perry 65snoopy at gmail.com
Wed Nov 1 12:19:56 EDT 2017


Blimey, I don't remember that!

On 1 November 2017 at 17:01, Antoni Adamiak <antoni at clara.net> wrote:

> When The Revolution Comes by The Last Poets was on it ...
>
> https://youtu.be/8M5W_3T2Ye4
>
> Regards, Antoni
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 1 Nov 2017, at 15:42, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Been on a huge DAF listening binge recently, what with the first 4 albums
> being re-released,
> and they are apparently doing gigs - would be nice if they got the support
> slot on any upcoming
> KJ gigs, although of course highly unlikely.
>
> I was trying to remember the order of the songs on KJ's intro tape from
> back in the day,
> - Gary Glitter Rock N Roll, DAF Der Mussolini and Alex Harvey Booids...
> but wasn't there
> another regular song in there somewhere? Whenever that synth riff of Der
> Mussolini started up, always knew
> it was time to get down the front...
>
> On 1 November 2017 at 12:41, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net
> > wrote:
>
>> Top memories of support bands:
>>
>> Lords of the New Church (the Damned, 1983)
>> Play Dead & Danse Society (Killing Joke, 1983)
>> Big Black (Killing Joke, 1986)
>> Sporadix (Ruts DC, er, 2015 or so)
>>
>> ...doubtless others too.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <
>> gathering at misera.net>
>> CC: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Sent: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 22:19
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Ha
>>
>> Support bands are always a mixed bag. As far as KJ supports go, I really
>> enjoyed Treponem Pal and loved The Crying Spell, but didn't much like the
>> Icarus Line and Selfish C*nt were just ridiculous. I couldn't believe
>> they'd actually bagged a Killing Joke support slot. Outside of KJ, I quite
>> enjoyed The Black Crowes opening for the Stones, but they had electrical
>> problems and had to just jam for long periods. I saw Heaven's Basement
>> supporting a Japanese band. Nowhere near as good as the main act, but not
>> too horrible. Jim. On Tue, 31/10/17, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <
>> gathering at misera.net> wrote: Subject: Re: [kj] Ha To:
>> gathering at misera.net Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com Date: Tuesday, 31 October, 2017,
>> 21:49 I don't remember the support act. ---- Original Message ---- From:
>> fatpotanga . <fatpotanga at gmail.com> To: A list about all things Killing
>> Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net> Sent: Tue, Oct 31, 2017 7:17 am
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Ha Alas no Jim, I've muddled who/what/where/when. I do it
>> a lot. Was the Taif gig the one where the support got all despondent & kept
>> saying how crap they were? They all played Firebirds and were actually
>> pretty good.  On 30 Oct 2017 7:16 p.m., "Jim Harper via Gathering" <
>> gathering at misera.net> wrote: I dimly remember Raven was supposed to have
>> approached Jaz and Geordie and said that he wants back in the band because
>> he can do it better so it's not unfeasible that he went to see that lineup
>> first. Would he have asked to rejoin if he honestly thought Taif was doing
>> an excellent job? I didn't know him very well but he never seemed to have
>> that kind of ego. Jim. On Mon, 30/10/17, fatpotanga . <
>> fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:  Subject: Re: [kj] Ha  To: "A list about
>> all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>  Date:
>> Monday, 30 October, 2017, 19:55  Ah, was that the  Taif one. I definitely
>> remember one there with Raven. Pre  and post Extremities?I'm getting old
>> and  confused. Taif one was a great gig. I was at the  front opposite him.
>> Had no idea who he was, just remember a  manic grin.At least I think I
>>  do...  On 30 Oct 2017 6:39 p.m.,  "jpwhkj--- via Gathering" <
>> gathering at misera.net>  wrote:  Blimey, Raven was  there?  I wonder what
>> he made of Taif...  -----Original  Message-----  From: fatpotanga . <
>> fatpotanga at gmail.com>  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>> band!) <gathering at misera.net>  Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:34  Subject:
>> Re: [kj] Ha  I was there - fantastic gig. I was stood watching the  support
>> right at the back near the bar, looked to my left  and there was raven
>> watching intently. Never occurred to me  to speak to him.  I think it was
>> that one my that mum's car got  stolen from. Id borrowed it  and parked on
>> a really dodgy  side street!  I may be remembering it wrong but I think
>> they played  there a couple of times in fairly close succession.  Shame the
>> Internationals have gone, they were great  venues.  On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 at
>> 17:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering  <gathering at misera.net>  wrote:  Can't
>> remember the address, but Manchester  International II, if memory serves.
>> Followed by the  Kilburn Ballroom in London a couple of nights later.  And
>> yeah, it was feckin amazing.  Nostalgic Jamie  -----Original  Message-----
>>  From: Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com>  To: Gathering <
>> gathering at misera.net>  Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:13  Subject: Re: [kj]
>> Ha  Jamie,  Was the Manchester gig the one at the International on
>>  Plymouth Grove. Best KJ gig I've seen.  Brian.  On  27 October 2017 at
>> 09:58, jpwhkj--- via Gathering  <gathering at misera.net>  wrote:  Not sure
>> where it would go, but I'd find it a  home ;-)  I know you love
>> Extremities, but there are a few  tracks that don't really do it for me.
>>  The two gigs in question were pretty mental anyway (the  Manc one in
>> particular featured an ongoing battle between  two local gangs).
>> Basically, we'd all suffered our way  through 1988 and Outside the Gate,
>> and the Joke apparently  imploding... and suddenly here they were, with a
>> load of new  tracks that stood up alongside the old material.  I for one
>>  was massively relieved!  The Manc gig was also the scene of one of my
>> favourite  KJ moments.  Most of you have heard it before (probably  several
>> times) but I'll mention it briefly.  I hitchhiked up to Manchester, and was
>> lucky with my  lifts so got there mid-afternoon.  I found the venue, and
>>  the doors were all open so I wondered in and found the Joke  doing their
>> soundcheck.  They played something as a band  (Frenzy, perhaps?) and then
>> Jaz came and stood at the back  and listened while Geordie played Night
>> Time on his own.   Jaz was obviously entranced, and so was I.  There were
>> bits  that I'd previously assumed were keyboards that were  actually
>> guitar.  Hearing Geordie on his own was  incredible.  Jamie  -----Original
>> Message-----  From: adrianwason <adrianwason at btinternet.com>  To: A list
>> about all things Killing Joke \\(the  band!\\) <gathering at misera.net>
>>  Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:21  Subject: Re: [kj] Ha  I  love the Fanatic!
>>  Where would you place it on Extremities though?  Never saw it live, I
>> imagine it was mental!  ----Original  message----  From :
>> rob.moss at gmx.com  Date : 26/10/2017 - 11:29 (GMTDT)  To :
>> gathering at misera.net  Cc : jpwhkj at aol.com  Subject : Re: [kj] Ha  Never
>> got the Fanatic. I think it’s one they were  right to keep back. Like Feast
>> Of Fools I find. A bit  generic.   I think their quality control  Is pretty
>> damn good on the whole.   On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:21, jpwhkj--- via Gathering
>> <gathering at misera.net>  wrote:  In fact  it's even pretty rare for them
>> to play something and it  not appear on an official studio release (other
>> than  retrospectives etc).  Only ones I've personally seen  are the Fanatic
>> (which I saw at those two UK gigs in spring  89) and Timewave (London).
>> Always liked the Fanatic &  couldn't understand why it didn't make the
>> album - I  think it's better than some of the tracks that did.
>>  -----Original Message-----  From: Paul Rangecroft <
>> paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>  To: A list about all things Killing Joke
>> (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>  Sent: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 23:12
>>  Subject: Re: [kj] Ha  No, I don't think so. Sorry if I caused confusion by
>>  appearing to  suggest that. I was trying to illustrate how relatively rare
>>  it is for  songs to be dropped (either entirely or from albums) at the
>>  live stage  without any sort of studio version or demo. So far the only
>>  example  anyone has been able to come up with (other than 'Take  Take
>> Take'  obviously) is 'The Hive', which was a precursor. I  guess there are
>>  also those very early crap ones like 'You're Being  Followed'. I think
>>  there was an early live version of 'Solitude' that  bore absolutely no
>>  relation to the album version too.  On 10/25/17, T.B. <
>> planetary at socal.rr.com>  wrote:  > 4 Stations Of The Sun has been
>> performed live?  >  > -----Original Message-----  > From: Gathering [
>> mailto:gathering-bounces@ <gathering-bounces@?>  misera.net] On Behalf
>> Of Paul  > Rangecroft  >  > Yes, 'The Hive' never saw any kind of official
>>  release but it was a  > precursor (to 'Harlequin'?). 'The  Fanatic' has a
>> studio version. So does  > 'Sun Goes Down'. '4 Stations of the  Sun' does
>> too. Well, a demo, anyway. I  > guess it's just a convenient coincidence
>> that Ha!  was released with an  > exclusive track, fancy that.  >  >
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