[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 24

Alexander Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Sat Jan 28 11:03:14 EST 2017 

Even a cursory glance of Breitbart's headlines should tell you everything you need to know about their accuracy/credibility.

It’s full of shit.

Alex in NYC



> On Jan 28, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
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> Amusing. I can't speak for whether it's been 'demonised' or not. I think accuracy is perhaps a better issue to focus on, no? 
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> On Sat, 28/1/17, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 24
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> Date: Saturday, 28 January, 2017, 15:16
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> I just trawl alternative media Alex.
> Breitbart has been spot on with a lot of things.
> But of course it has been demonsed so i`m not supposed to
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> From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
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> The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
> Trump's ambassador to the European Union told the
> Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
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> Trump's ambassador to the European Union told the
> Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
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> Trump's ambassador to the European Union told the
> Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
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> Trump's ambassador to the European Union told the
> Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
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>> The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
> Trump's ambassador to the European Union told the
> Breitbart News Daily Show that "TTIP is a non
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>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:02 AM, kevin
> <patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>>
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>>> That`s why I made a differentation and said
> `presumably dying.`
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>>> So lets wait and see what happens with the TIPP.
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>>> As for talking crap. Well on the day that I walk
> past a TV and SKY news are
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>>> reporting on `what this spraying programme is` and
> `why the public shouldn`t be alarmed` I`ll get
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>>> back to you on that.
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>>> Alex- me typing  3 days worth of wall taxt
> isn`t going to mak any difference to what you think.
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>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 20:27:26 -0000
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>>> From: "Mike Cooper"
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>>> Aren't TTIP and TPP completely different
> things?  I thought the former was
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>>> concerning the deals for corporations and
> government which Trump The C.
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>>> would almost certainly support and the latter a
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>>> I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking overjoyed
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>>> Seem to recall there was a post on here around
> August from someone in the UK
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>>> declaring he didn`t have a prayer. Mmmm.
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>>> I think Jaz mentioned he was more relieved that
> Hillary didn`t get in but he
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>>> He seemed to be really revelling in teasing the UK
> audiences about `How is
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>>> Jaz ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has
> killed TPP I`m sure he is
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>>> I don`t think BPF likes him but can`t speak for
> others. He put up a John
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>>> Pilger piece which was very anti Trump during the
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>>> Geordie no idea but a big supporter of EU so I
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>>> At the risk of possibly re-igniting the surreally
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> member of our estimable
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>>> collective got a bit combative on the subject of
> the election to the point
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>>> where I actually left the fold for a bit), I?m
> wondering how everyone?s
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>>> feeling only six days into the era of Trump as
> President.
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>>> My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe it
> was an incalculable mistake.
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>>> But what about you?
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>>> More relevant to this list ? where are Messrs.
> Coleman, Walker, Glover and
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>>> Ferguson? I know Youth has weighed in periodically
> on FB about Trump (he,
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>>> unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a acolyte),
> but I?m positively gagging
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>>> to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say about him.
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>>> Anyway, let?s hear your thoughts. I promise not to
> swan off like jilted prom
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>>> queen. I?m just wondering what this largely
> Euro-centric (right?) group of
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>>> The mood here in NYC, suffice to say, is not
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>>> You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only the
> US and the EU. It's a separate beast entirely.
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>>> Jim.
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>>> On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper
> <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
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>>>   Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
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>>>   Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
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>>>   Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
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>>>   different things?? I thought the former was
> concerning the
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>>>   deals for corporations and government which
> Trump The C?
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>>>   would almost certainly support and the
> latter a trade deal
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>>>   with pacific nations which he has ended. ?Oh
> and by the way Kev you?re
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>>>   talking crap. ?From: Gathering
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>>>   Sent: 27 January 2017
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>>>   06:57
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>>>   168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in.
> Fucking
> 
>>>   overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there was
> a post on
> 
>>>   here around August from someone in the UK I
> think
> 
>>>   declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
> 
>>>   Mmmm.
> 
>>>   ?I think Jaz
> 
>>>   mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary
> didn`t get in
> 
>>>   but he seems to change his views like the
> weather on these
> 
>>>   things.He seemed to be really revelling
> 
>>>   in teasing the UK audiences about `How is
> your Brexit
> 
>>>   going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50`
> on
> 
>>>   that(strange for someone who seems to
> 
>>>   jump on people for being `fence
> sitters.`)Jaz
> 
>>>   ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has
> killed TPP I`m
> 
>>>   sure he is revelling in that presumably
> dying.. ?I don`t think BPF likes him but
> 
>>>   can`t speak for others. He put up a John
> Pilger piece which
> 
>>>   was very anti Trump during the
> election..Geordie no idea but a big
> 
>>>   supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I assume
> is wearing a Pink
> 
>>>   Pussy hat and waving a placard with a crying
> polar bear on
> 
>>>   it or something... ?
> 
>>>   ?
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   Message: 3
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>>>   Date: Thu, 26 Jan
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>>>   2017 20:25:03 -0500
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>>>   From: Alexander Smith
> 
>>>   <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>>
> 
>>>   To: "A list about all things Killing
> Joke
> 
>>>   (the band!)"
> 
>>>   ??????? <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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>>>   Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of
> 
>>>   Trump
> 
>>>   Message-ID:
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> 
>>>   At the risk of possibly
> 
>>>   re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I
> participated in
> 
>>>   back in November (wherein certain member of
> our estimable
> 
>>>   collective got a bit combative on the
> subject of the
> 
>>>   election to the point where I actually left
> the fold for a
> 
>>>   bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling
> only six days
> 
>>>   into the era of Trump as President.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe
> it
> 
>>>   was an incalculable mistake.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   But what about you?
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   More relevant to this list ? where are
> Messrs.
> 
>>>   Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know
> Youth has
> 
>>>   weighed in periodically on FB about Trump
> (he,
> 
>>>   unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
> acolyte), but I?m
> 
>>>   positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF
> have to say
> 
>>>   about him.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   Anyway, let?s
> 
>>>   hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan
> off like jilted
> 
>>>   prom queen. I?m just wondering what this
> largely
> 
>>>   Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to
> say at this
> 
>>>   point.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   The mood here in
> 
>>>   NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   Cheers, you fuckers.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   Alex in NYC.
> 
>>>   
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>>> Message: 3
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>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:43:47 +0000
> 
>>> From: Richard Hopkins <ratclimber at gmail.com
> <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>
> <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>>>
> 
>>> To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>>,
> "A
>  list about all things
> 
>>>         
> Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> 
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue
> 15
> 
>>> Message-ID:
> <9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com
> <mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com><mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com
>  <mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com>>>
> 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> You guys and you're alternative facts....Sad!
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> (?)
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> On 27 January 2017, at 21:01, Jim Harper via
> Gathering <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net><mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> wrote:
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only the
> US and the EU. It's a separate beast entirely.
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> Jim.
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper
> <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>>
>  wrote:
> 
>>> 
> 
>>>   Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
> Issue 15
> 
>>>   To: "'A list about all things
> Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net><mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> 
>>>   Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
> 
>>>   different things?? I thought the former was
> concerning the
> 
>>>   deals for corporations and government which
> Trump The C?
> 
>>>   would almost certainly support and the
> latter a trade deal
> 
>>>   with pacific nations which he has ended. ?Oh
> and by the way Kev you?re
> 
>>>   talking crap. ?From: Gathering
> 
>>>   [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>]
>  On Behalf Of
> 
>>>   kevin
> 
>>>   Sent: 27 January 2017
> 
>>>   06:57
> 
>>>   To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> 
>>>   Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
> 
>>>   168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in.
> Fucking
> 
>>>   overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there was
> a post on
> 
>>>   here around August from someone in the UK I
> think
> 
>>>   declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
> 
>>>   Mmmm.
> 
>>>   ?I think Jaz
> 
>>>   mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary
> didn`t get in
> 
>>>   but he seems to change his views like the
> weather on these
> 
>>>   things.He seemed to be really revelling
> 
>>>   in teasing the UK audiences about `How is
> your Brexit
> 
>>>   going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50`
> on
> 
>>>   that(strange for someone who seems to
> 
>>>   jump on people for being `fence
> sitters.`)Jaz
> 
>>>   ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has
> killed TPP I`m
> 
>>>   sure he is revelling in that presumably
> dying.. ?I don`t think BPF likes him but
> 
>>>   can`t speak for others. He put up a John
> Pilger piece which
> 
>>>   was very anti Trump during the
> election..Geordie no idea but a big
> 
>>>   supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I assume
> is wearing a Pink
> 
>>>   Pussy hat and waving a placard with a crying
> polar bear on
> 
>>>   it or something... ?
> 
>>>   ?
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   Message: 3
> 
>>>   Date: Thu, 26 Jan
> 
>>>   2017 20:25:03 -0500
> 
>>>   From: Alexander Smith
> 
>>>   <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>>
> 
>>>   To: "A list about all things Killing
> Joke
> 
>>>   (the band!)"
> 
>>>   ??????? <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> 
>>>   Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of
> 
>>>   Trump
> 
>>>   Message-ID:
> <0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
>  <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>>>
> 
>>>   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   At the risk of possibly
> 
>>>   re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I
> participated in
> 
>>>   back in November (wherein certain member of
> our estimable
> 
>>>   collective got a bit combative on the
> subject of the
> 
>>>   election to the point where I actually left
> the fold for a
> 
>>>   bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling
> only six days
> 
>>>   into the era of Trump as President.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe
> it
> 
>>>   was an incalculable mistake.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   But what about you?
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   More relevant to this list ? where are
> Messrs.
> 
>>>   Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know
> Youth has
> 
>>>   weighed in periodically on FB about Trump
> (he,
> 
>>>   unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
> acolyte), but I?m
> 
>>>   positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF
> have to say
> 
>>>   about him.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   Anyway, let?s
> 
>>>   hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan
> off like jilted
> 
>>>   prom queen. I?m just wondering what this
> largely
> 
>>>   Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to
> say at this
> 
>>>   point.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   The mood here in
> 
>>>   NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   Cheers, you fuckers.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   Alex in NYC.
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   
> 
>>>   
> 
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> 
>>>   
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