[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 20

Jim Harper jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Jan 28 09:23:51 EST 2017


I think the point is that Jaz has ranted about the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, so it's unclear how he feels about now-defunct Trans Pacific Partnership.

Has he said anything about the TPP? Anyone? 


On Sat, 28/1/17, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 20
 To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
 Date: Saturday, 28 January, 2017, 14:02
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 That`s why I made a differentation and said `presumably
 dying.`
 So lets wait and see what happens with the TIPP.
 As for talking crap. Well on the day that I walk past a
 TV and SKY news are
 reporting on `what this spraying programme is` and `why
 the public shouldn`t be alarmed` I`ll get
 back to you on that.
 
 
 
 Alex- me typing  3 days worth of wall taxt isn`t
 going to mak any difference to what you think.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 20:27:26 -0000
 
 From: "Mike Cooper"
 <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
 
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 Aren't TTIP and TPP completely different things?  I
 thought the former was
 
 concerning the deals for corporations and government which
 Trump The C.
 
 would almost certainly support and the latter a trade deal
 with pacific
 
 nations which he has ended.
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 Oh and by the way Kev you're talking crap.
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
 On Behalf Of kevin
 
 Sent: 27 January 2017 06:57
 
 To: gathering at misera.net
 
 Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking overjoyed actually.
 
 
 
 Seem to recall there was a post on here around August from
 someone in the UK
 
 I think 
 
 
 
 declaring he didn`t have a prayer. Mmmm.
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 I think Jaz mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary
 didn`t get in but he
 
 seems to change his views like the weather on these things.
 
 
 
 He seemed to be really revelling in teasing the UK audiences
 about `How is
 
 your Brexit going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50` on
 that
 
 
 
 (strange for someone who seems to jump on people for being
 `fence sitters.`)
 
 
 
 Jaz ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP
 I`m sure he is
 
 revelling in that presumably dying..
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 I don`t think BPF likes him but can`t speak for others. He
 put up a John
 
 Pilger piece which was very anti Trump during the
 election..
 
 
 
 Geordie no idea but a big supporter of EU so I hear.
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 Youth I assume is wearing a Pink Pussy hat and waving a
 placard with a
 
 crying polar bear on it or something...
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Message: 3
 
 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:25:03 -0500
 
 From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net
 
 <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
 >
 
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 Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of Trump
 
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 At the risk of possibly re-igniting the surreally hostile
 thread I
 
 participated in back in November (wherein certain member of
 our estimable
 
 collective got a bit combative on the subject of the
 election to the point
 
 where I actually left the fold for a bit), I?m wondering how
 everyone?s
 
 feeling only six days into the era of Trump as President.
 
 
 
 My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe it was an
 incalculable mistake.
 
 
 
 But what about you?
 
 
 
 More relevant to this list ? where are Messrs. Coleman,
 Walker, Glover and
 
 Ferguson? I know Youth has weighed in periodically on FB
 about Trump (he,
 
 unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a acolyte), but I?m
 positively gagging
 
 to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say about him.
 
 
 
 Anyway, let?s hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan off
 like jilted prom
 
 queen. I?m just wondering what this largely Euro-centric
 (right?) group of
 
 folks have to say at this point.
 
 
 
 The mood here in NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
 
 
 
 Cheers, you fuckers.
 
 
 
 Alex in NYC.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:01:25 +0000 (UTC)
 
 From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
 
 To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the
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 You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only the US and the
 EU. It's a separate beast entirely.
 
 
 
 Jim.
 
 
 
 On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper
 <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
 
  To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke
 (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
 
  Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
 
  
 
  
 
  Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
 
  different things?? I thought the former was concerning
 the
 
  deals for corporations and government which Trump The
 C?
 
  would almost certainly support and the latter a trade
 deal
 
  with pacific nations which he has ended. ?Oh and by
 the way Kev you?re
 
  talking crap. ?From: Gathering
 
  [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
 On Behalf Of
 
  kevin
 
  Sent: 27 January 2017
 
  06:57
 
  To: gathering at misera.net
 
  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
 
  168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking
 
  overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there was a post on
 
  here around August from someone in the UK I think
 
  declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
 
  Mmmm.
 
  ?I think Jaz
 
  mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary didn`t get
 in
 
  but he seems to change his views like the weather on
 these
 
  things.He seemed to be really revelling
 
  in teasing the UK audiences about `How is your Brexit
 
  going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50` on
 
  that(strange for someone who seems to
 
  jump on people for being `fence sitters.`)Jaz
 
  ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP
 I`m
 
  sure he is revelling in that presumably dying.. ?I
 don`t think BPF likes him but
 
  can`t speak for others. He put up a John Pilger piece
 which
 
  was very anti Trump during the election..Geordie no
 idea but a big
 
  supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I assume is wearing
 a Pink
 
  Pussy hat and waving a placard with a crying polar
 bear on
 
  it or something... ?
 
  ?
 
  
 
  Message: 3
 
  Date: Thu, 26 Jan
 
  2017 20:25:03 -0500
 
  From: Alexander Smith
 
  <vassifer at earthlink.net>
 
  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
 
  (the band!)"
 
  ??????? <gathering at misera.net>
 
  Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of
 
  Trump
 
  Message-ID:
 <0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
 
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
  
 
  At the risk of possibly
 
  re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I
 participated in
 
  back in November (wherein certain member of our
 estimable
 
  collective got a bit combative on the subject of the
 
  election to the point where I actually left the fold
 for a
 
  bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling only six
 days
 
  into the era of Trump as President.
 
  
 
  My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe it
 
  was an incalculable mistake.
 
  
 
  But what about you?
 
  
 
  More relevant to this list ? where are Messrs.
 
  Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know Youth
 has
 
  weighed in periodically on FB about Trump (he,
 
  unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a acolyte), but
 I?m
 
  positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF have to
 say
 
  about him.
 
  
 
  Anyway, let?s
 
  hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan off like
 jilted
 
  prom queen. I?m just wondering what this largely
 
  Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to say at
 this
 
  point.
 
  
 
  The mood here in
 
  NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
 
  
 
  Cheers, you fuckers.
 
  
 
  Alex in NYC.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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 From: Richard Hopkins <ratclimber at gmail.com>
 
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 You guys and you're alternative facts....Sad!
 
 
 
 (?)
 
 
 
 On 27 January 2017, at 21:01, Jim Harper via Gathering
 <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
 
 
 
 You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only the US and the
 EU. It's a separate beast entirely.
 
 
 
 Jim.
 
 
 
 On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper
 <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 15
 
  To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke
 (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
 
  Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
 
  
 
  
 
  Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
 
  different things?? I thought the former was concerning
 the
 
  deals for corporations and government which Trump The
 C?
 
  would almost certainly support and the latter a trade
 deal
 
  with pacific nations which he has ended. ?Oh and by
 the way Kev you?re
 
  talking crap. ?From: Gathering
 
  [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
 On Behalf Of
 
  kevin
 
  Sent: 27 January 2017
 
  06:57
 
  To: gathering at misera.net
 
  Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
 
  168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking
 
  overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there was a post on
 
  here around August from someone in the UK I think
 
  declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
 
  Mmmm.
 
  ?I think Jaz
 
  mentioned he was more relieved that Hillary didn`t get
 in
 
  but he seems to change his views like the weather on
 these
 
  things.He seemed to be really revelling
 
  in teasing the UK audiences about `How is your Brexit
 
  going?` etc but I also heard he was `50/50` on
 
  that(strange for someone who seems to
 
  jump on people for being `fence sitters.`)Jaz
 
  ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump has killed TPP
 I`m
 
  sure he is revelling in that presumably dying.. ?I
 don`t think BPF likes him but
 
  can`t speak for others. He put up a John Pilger piece
 which
 
  was very anti Trump during the election..Geordie no
 idea but a big
 
  supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I assume is wearing
 a Pink
 
  Pussy hat and waving a placard with a crying polar
 bear on
 
  it or something... ?
 
  ?
 
  
 
  Message: 3
 
  Date: Thu, 26 Jan
 
  2017 20:25:03 -0500
 
  From: Alexander Smith
 
  <vassifer at earthlink.net>
 
  To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
 
  (the band!)"
 
  ??????? <gathering at misera.net>
 
  Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of
 
  Trump
 
  Message-ID:
 <0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
 
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
  
 
  At the risk of possibly
 
  re-igniting the surreally hostile thread I
 participated in
 
  back in November (wherein certain member of our
 estimable
 
  collective got a bit combative on the subject of the
 
  election to the point where I actually left the fold
 for a
 
  bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s feeling only six
 days
 
  into the era of Trump as President.
 
  
 
  My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe it
 
  was an incalculable mistake.
 
  
 
  But what about you?
 
  
 
  More relevant to this list ? where are Messrs.
 
  Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I know Youth
 has
 
  weighed in periodically on FB about Trump (he,
 
  unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a acolyte), but
 I?m
 
  positively gagging to hear what Jaz and BPF have to
 say
 
  about him.
 
  
 
  Anyway, let?s
 
  hear your thoughts. I promise not to swan off like
 jilted
 
  prom queen. I?m just wondering what this largely
 
  Euro-centric (right?) group of folks have to say at
 this
 
  point.
 
  
 
  The mood here in
 
  NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
 
  
 
  Cheers, you fuckers.
 
  
 
  Alex in NYC.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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