[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 3 RE: Bored

kevin patrickvieira at msn.com
Thu Jan 5 16:41:22 EST 2017


>From Bill Drummonds book `17`..p 234


`Spring 1985. I am sitting in my office at WEA Records in Broadwick Street Soho staring out the window wondering wether I was now a corporate arsehole or wether i genuinley looked cool in my new Paul Smith suit, when this bloke walks in unnanounced. A bloke that I have never seen before and he starts talking to me like he has known me all his life. He starts telling me how he used to manage the Specials, that he  had spent Christmas with Michael Jackson and he is about to be the biggest thing in Pop music in the 1980`s and then he started going on about steam trains and why the Beatles were still the greatest pop band ever (`until they went weird`)...I asked him if he wanted a cup of tea and what his name was. He said yes to the first question and Pete waterman to the second.....


That night at the Wag Club this band called Brilliant sounded shit. They had been formed by Youth the bass player from Killing Joke. I had only signed them because my friend and sometime work partner David Balfe was managing them and Youth could talk a good band. The band had two bass players for some reason that only Youth could defend. They had a guitarist who wanted to be Jimmy Page, a drummer who drummed, and a keyboard player who mde keyboard sounds. The songs were a dreary mush of white boy funk but they had this singer who was this striking black girl with a husky but fragile voice.


Pete waterman turned up halfway through their set. He immediatley came up to me and before he had heard one complete song he said they were shit but if I would sack the band but keep the singer and give him £3,000 next week, he knew just the song she could sing and we would have a top 10 hit in a matter of weeks. Then he left.


Next morning he was back in my office. `Have you sacked the band yet?`............


....We shook hands on the deal. Then he told us another thing. He woudn`t be wanting Youth or the guitarist who wanted to be Jimmy Page playing on the record........


.......................We were met by Waterman who introduced us to his boys Matt and Mike, and told us the track was sounding brilliant and only needed the vocals to complete it, and could he get his other £1,500 in the morning? We still didn`t know what the song was and Youth and Jimi were having an understandable artistic crisis about the fact that a record was being made that was to be released under their group name that they had not written or played a note on and that they didn`t as yet have any idea what the song was...`


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   1. Re: Got bored... (Rob Moss)
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   3. Re: Got bored... (Stephen Robinson)
   4. Re: Got bored... (Neil Perry)
   5. Re: Got bored... (Jim Harper)
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From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
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Absolutely horrendous. But so bad it's good. It has everything awful about the time chucked in there and it must have been a hoot. Bits of it remind me so much of This is what you want era pil (bass and production).

Reminds me why I never bought any of it at the time!!!!

> On 3 Jan 2017, at 22:47, fatpotanga . <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I've just got round to listening. I must confess I'd previously only ever heard a couple of Brilliant tracks way back and they didn't really do anything for me.
>  I'm afraid I'm still of the opinion they really weren't, but thanks for getting them up there and sharing.
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> But why I did get out of it was the MP3>YouTube uploader you used and the fact it has a bulk option which is something I've been after so a BIG thanks for that :)
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Brilliant: Colours 12 inch single full<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0eSjXQrSNM>
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>From the original Risk Records 12" 1983 12" including the B side Colours Monster Mix 5:14


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From: Stephen Robinson <heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk>
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The 12? singles are like the song Brilliant by Killing Joke compared to the album.

:)

> On 5 Jan 2017, at 19:47, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
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> Absolutely horrendous. But so bad it's good. It has everything awful about the time chucked in there and it must have been a hoot. Bits of it remind me so much of This is what you want era pil (bass and production).
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> Reminds me why I never bought any of it at the time!!!!



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btYwCT97VaU <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btYwCT97VaU>
[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.V0ab88e055e4d3ecf438d74b6292c3166&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btYwCT97VaU>

Brilliant - It's a Man's Man's Man's World<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btYwCT97VaU>
www.youtube.com
Brilliant It's a Man's Man's Man's World. Music video for the 1985 cover version of this James Brown track, charting at #58 in the UK in November 1985, #36 in the ...

[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.V0ab88e055e4d3ecf438d74b6292c3166&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btYwCT97VaU>

Brilliant - It's a Man's Man's Man's World<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btYwCT97VaU>
www.youtube.com
Brilliant It's a Man's Man's Man's World. Music video for the 1985 cover version of this James Brown track, charting at #58 in the UK in November 1985, #36 in the ...



Look at that daft Cauty!
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I'd been blissfully unaware of this for 31 years, but just one click and
now I can
never un-see it. Remarkable stuff, they must have had a laugh with those
dance moves.

On 5 January 2017 at 21:21, Stephen Robinson <
heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btYwCT97VaU
[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.V0ab88e055e4d3ecf438d74b6292c3166&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btYwCT97VaU>

Brilliant - It's a Man's Man's Man's World<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btYwCT97VaU>
www.youtube.com
Brilliant It's a Man's Man's Man's World. Music video for the 1985 cover version of this James Brown track, charting at #58 in the UK in November 1985, #36 in the ...


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Dear God. Can't we have some kind of a warning before you post links like that?

Dear God.

On Thu, 5/1/17, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kj] Got bored...
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 Date: Thursday, 5 January, 2017, 20:31

 I'd been blissfully unaware of this for
 31 years, but just one click and now I can
 never un-see it. Remarkable stuff, they
 must have had a laugh with those dance moves.

 On 5
 January 2017 at 21:21, Stephen Robinson <heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk>
 wrote:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?
YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/watch?>
www.youtube.com
and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


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Can't stop now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLu2vgayA_c&spfreload=5
[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fLu2vgayA_c/hqdefault.jpg]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLu2vgayA_c&spfreload=5>

Brilliant - Love Is War<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLu2vgayA_c&spfreload=5>
www.youtube.com
Brilliant Love Is War. 1986 single charting at #64 in the UK in March 1986. From the album 'Kiss the Lips of Life', this track was co-written and produced by...



They were really into that synchronised larking about with the guitars
weren't they

On 5 January 2017 at 21:36, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
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> Dear God. Can't we have some kind of a warning before you post links like
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>  I'd been blissfully unaware of this for
>  31 years, but just one click and now I can
>  never un-see it. Remarkable stuff, they
>  must have had a laugh with those dance moves.
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>  January 2017 at 21:21, Stephen Robinson <heiferboy at robinsonworld.
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Effing terrible song that one, ?That?s the look, the look of Love!? Given a Stock Aitkin and Waterman doing over up a dark alley.

Noticed the only Youth produced track on the album wasn?t on Youtube, I have now corrected that.

Gee-Tar!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4nuYbYwp88
[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/l4nuYbYwp88/maxresdefault.jpg]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4nuYbYwp88>

Brilliant: Crash The Car<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4nuYbYwp88>
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Only track on the 'Kiss the Lips of Life' album produced by Youth not SAW. -Video Upload powered by https://www.TunesToTube.com




> On 5 Jan 2017, at 20:44, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Can't stop now
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLu2vgayA_c&spfreload=5 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLu2vgayA_c&spfreload=5>
[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fLu2vgayA_c/hqdefault.jpg]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLu2vgayA_c&spfreload=5>

Brilliant - Love Is War<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLu2vgayA_c&spfreload=5>
www.youtube.com
Brilliant Love Is War. 1986 single charting at #64 in the UK in March 1986. From the album 'Kiss the Lips of Life', this track was co-written and produced by...


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> They were really into that synchronised larking about with the guitars weren't they
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> On 5 January 2017 at 21:36, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>> wrote:
> Dear God. Can't we have some kind of a warning before you post links like that?
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> Dear God.
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> On Thu, 5/1/17, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>  I'd been blissfully unaware of this for
>  31 years, but just one click and now I can
>  never un-see it. Remarkable stuff, they
>  must have had a laugh with those dance moves.
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>  January 2017 at 21:21, Stephen Robinson <heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk>>
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Speaking of Cauty - funnily enough I'd just finishing watching (well, skimming) this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1snD2zm1pBQ


...which is referenced at the beginning of this:


https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2017/jan/05/klf-comeback-bill-drummond-jimmy-cauty


There's a fair bit of synchronised guitar larking in the latter parts of the video (Doctorin the Tardis, etc etc)



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Can't stop now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLu2vgayA_c&spfreload=5


They were really into that synchronised larking about with the guitars weren't they



On 5 January 2017 at 21:36, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:

Dear God. Can't we have some kind of a warning before you post links like that?

Dear God.

On Thu, 5/1/17, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kj] Got bored...
 To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
 Date: Thursday, 5 January, 2017, 20:31


 I'd been blissfully unaware of this for
 31 years, but just one click and now I can
 never un-see it. Remarkable stuff, they
 must have had a laugh with those dance moves.

 On 5
 January 2017 at 21:21, Stephen Robinson <heiferboy at robinsonworld.freeserve.co.uk>
 wrote:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?
 v=btYwCT97VaU
 Look at
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