[kj] Reissues
Nick Scott
npscott at blueyonder.co.uk
Fri Sep 2 09:48:37 EDT 2016
Wow thanks Rob....would have much preferred that over 'Black Moon' as inclusion
on the album. Wonder why they dropped it? The album after all was going to be
called that track title, so it must have been a strong contender.
Gutted that there is no known whereabouts to the original 'Another Cult Goes
Down', so curious to hear that.
> On 02 September 2016 at 13:45 Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
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> I don't know where you would find a better version of that though.
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> Nope. No idea.
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> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 at 1:06 PM
> From: "jpwhkj--- via Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [kj] Reissues
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> In theory, it would be great to hear previously unreleased tracks and/or
> genuinely different mixes. In practice, I suspect that there aren't many of
> the former left (i.e. that we haven't heard), and they probably aren't
> actually that good! So different mixes would probably be more interesting...
> early dub mixes of anything off the first two albums, for example.
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> That said, I quite like Hallucinations of a Cynic, and a better version
> would be very welcome.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 11:52
> Subject: Re: [kj] Reissues
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> I tend to be the music industry's ideal customer/sucker as far as all
> this is concerned, but
> these would have to be fairly special to make me part with any cash. I
> would shell out to
> hear unreleased songs from the early KJ era, for sure, but there are
> other ways of sweetening
> the deal, for example a decent booklet - or even book - with interviews
> from the time and new interviews/comments with the
> band, essays, any unseen photos, decent posters etc etc. There are still
> some of Youth's early dub mixes that have never been
> released from the WTF...! era but like you say, the tapes are possibly
> lost for ever. But if it is just 'single edits' - ie
> the same bloody songs but a few seconds shorter - then no.
>
> I would love to own a decent high quality version of Hallucinations of
> a Cynic, rather than the tinny Youtube
> recording we are stuck with at present.
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> On 2 September 2016 at 11:44, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
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> > > At the moment, it's the releases up to Brighter that I
> > > know have been considered.
> > Pandemonium and Democracy had some work but it's a different label
> > and I donlt know what is going on there - or Extremities.
> >
> > I can tell you that there is not a huge amount in the vaults and
> > tracking down the two you mention Nick didn't happen.
> > Even asking the band for copies of tapes etc proved fruitless.
> >
> > These were requested for "listening" but never materialised
> >
> > Millenium Reaction Dub
> > Offering
> > Lanterns with Violin
> > Hallucinations of a cynic (vox slave)
> > Mathematics of chaos (slave)
> > Jana (vox slave)
> > Labyrinth (drum slave)
> > HillBilly Blues
> > Honey (agent Orange)
> > Guilt
> > Running Through The Maze
> > Another Cult Goes Down
> >
> > Never could find the Democracy album with teh loops that Geordie
> > refered to
> > the thing is, masters have been left all over the place because of
> > there being so many different labels and legal entities. No-One bloody
> > knows!
> >
> > Some of the tracks Scott mentioned are not actually band
> > collaboratrions as well though they carry the KJ name
> > They may have been Jaz/Youth demos or things that Youth patched
> > together from bits n pieces which Geordie maight not have approved of and
> > vetoed.
> >
> > As far as earlier releases go, there are just a few jams or
> > alternate mixes, single edits etc. Things like Youth singing on Wardance
> > etc. Curious but not vital,
> > KJ certainly were not terribly prolific.
> > Interestingly, Harlequin was considered for a single and a mix was
> > done.
> > Also, around Fire Dances, they did alot of patching up. There are
> > some funny "edits" on that album and it's now apparant that they recorded
> > new bits to splice in here and there.
> >
> > There are some live tracks that have been fished out but it really
> > all depends on what the record companies consider viable financially!
> >
> >
> > Requiem on a banjo is quite good though with Jaz on a
> > kazoo...............
> >
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> >
> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 at 6:44 AM
> > From: "Nick Scott" <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>
> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> > <gathering at misera.net>
> > Subject: Re: [kj] Reissues
> >
> > I certainly know there must be two hidden gems from Pandemonium
> > era.
> >
> > Firstly Pandemonium itself, there is an extra verse on the
> > Waxworth Industries
> > mix that has to be lurking on master tape somewhere considering
> > the remix to be
> > incorporated back into the original, and then there is Another
> > Cult Goes
> > Down.....unlike Snakedance from Pylon which has been released in
> > its original
> > format who has ever heard the original that was used for Youth's
> > Portobello dub
> > mix?
> >
> > > On 02 September 2016 at 00:43 scott thompson
> > > <scott1310drummond at outlook.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Would be keen to hear Tailspin,industrial suicide
> > > tribe,Fucashima,Heartbreak,Childhood Prince,Pain and any other
> > > unreleased
> > > songs.
> > >
> > > and theres probably a whole lot of other stuff weve never
> > > heard before,I think
> > > that would be a very profitable release.
> > >
> > > Could we have a clue as to what tracks they are ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of
> > > Rob Moss
> > > <rob.moss at gmx.com>
> > > Sent: 01 September 2016 23:09:32
> > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> > > Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com
> > > Subject: Re: [kj] Reissues
> > >
> > > Alternate takes and demos were all suggested. Stuff I never
> > > heard before.
> > > Nothing tooooo stunning though.
> > >
> > > But it all depends on budgets I guess.......
> > >
> > > On 1 Sep 2016, at 22:08, jpwhkj--- via Gathering
> > > <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Intriguing.... I don't suppose you'll tell us anything about
> > > the nature of the
> > > "extra bits"...?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com<mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com>>
> > > To: gathering
> > > <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> > > Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:51
> > > Subject: [kj] Reissues
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Seeing as folks are actually awake......
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been helping a label who is interested in re-issues of
> > > the first few
> > > albums
> > >
> > > There are a few extra bits that have been put forward to make
> > > the reissues
> > > different so that they are no straight cash ins. What gets
> > > picked up though, I
> > > could not say
> > >
> > >
> > > There is talk of some special vinyl though which might be
> > > interesting..........
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