[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 165, Issue 46 Message 2

Rob Moss rob.moss at gmx.com
Thu Nov 10 09:21:56 EST 2016


I like debate

But some of the tone is just a bit disappointing. That's all!!!

> On 10 Nov 2016, at 15:16, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> No bad feeling on my part Rob.
> I love a good argument and I love seeing people
> express their opinions. 
> I even had it with Jaz the other night- stareted off by thanking me for the book I`d given him
> on the Ukraine situation and ended up with him shouting `Go and say hi to your friends in the CIA` 
> and jabbing his finger at me cos I said I was suspicious about the integrity of the book.
> I love it.
> I don`t think you get this sort of stuff with the Sisters Of Mercy.
> Come on- were KJ fans - we can take it ( I hope).
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>   1. Re: Trump (Jim Harper)
>   2. Re: Trump (Rob Moss)
>   3. Re: Trump (Paul)
>   4. Re: Gathering Digest, Vol 165, Issue 39 Brendan Message 1
>      (Brendan Quinn)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 12:26:17 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
> To: <gingoblin at easynet.co.uk>,  "A list about all things Killing Joke
>        (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Trump
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> Wow.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10/11/16, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> Trump?s gobshite comments,
> con-man rip off schemes vs The Clintons litany of crimes
> against humanity
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 13:42:21 +0100
> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
> To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>, "A list about all things
>        Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Cc: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [kj] Trump
> Message-ID: <98775971-9A1C-4558-B0F0-B15B8C37B211 at gmx.com>
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> Isn't it funny how this has created so much bad feeling?
> 
> No one wants to chat about killing joke for months. They go on tour and play some blinders, but instead we trade insults over USA politics
> 
> Bit shit isn't it guys?
> 
> 
>> On 10 Nov 2016, at 13:26, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 10/11/16, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
>> 
>> Trump?s gobshite comments,
>> con-man rip off schemes vs The Clintons litany of crimes
>> against humanity
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> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 13:24:17 +0000
> From: Paul <dubecho at gmail.com>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>        <gathering at misera.net>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Trump
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> 
> I'm just glad to see the list active again to be honest, even if it took
> the Trump(ton riots) to get it going again ...lol
> 
> I thought FB had pretty much killed the list and I'm 100% guilty of gorging
> myself on FB the last few weeks with the tour. I guess FB has it's place, I
> just still have an aversion to sharing much on it, as things do have a
> habit of coming back to bite one on the arse, at least on The Gathering
> email list we can still be open and free and the only censorship is self
> imposed.
> 
> I did a little experiment when I shared the BBC 6 Music session tracks. I
> used a Google shortened URL, with which one can get analytics from and so
> far 124 people clicked the link. So good to know there are a few about
> still and hopefully some will come out of the darkness of lurkdom and into
> the warm glowing embrace of The Gathering email list ...lol
> (Anyone can check the stats, just add .info to the end of the URL)
> 
> I've been pretty much listening to nowt else but the Joke for last few
> weeks and personally I think they are getting better musically, but
> unfortunately age is catching up with them fast and maybe it is just me,
> but Jaz, seems to look tired all the time and his rants cut to the minimum,
> no bad thing I guess as it means more music, but I just hope the Euro tour
> does not knock them for 6 and puts them off hitting the US for a tour.
> 
> The set list seems to be pretty much set now, but it would be nice to think
> they might change it up a little, even if only for themselves. I'd still
> love to here a version of New Jerusalem live and Delete, couple of others
> off Pylon too, but mainly them two.
> 
> Anyone anything to add? Come out come out wherever you are : )
> 
> 
>> On 10 November 2016 at 12:42, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Isn't it funny how this has created so much bad feeling?
>> 
>> No one wants to chat about killing joke for months. They go on tour and
>> play some blinders, but instead we trade insults over USA politics
>> 
>> Bit shit isn't it guys?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Nov 2016, at 13:26, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 10/11/16, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Trump?s gobshite comments,
>>> con-man rip off schemes vs The Clintons litany of crimes
>>> against humanity
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> From: "Brendan Quinn" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
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> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 165, Issue 39 Brendan Message
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> ?But?.but?how will the memes survive if we don?t replicate them all?Mummy?
> GASP! Is that a Bullshit Detector you?re hiding under your?.but that?s?.?
> 
> 
> 
> I knew logging in to Facebook was a dumb move, suspected the same with The
> Gathering, and it took all of ten seconds to prove myself right.
> 
> I?ve watched and read so much about this and related topics (thousands of
> hours? worth), and seen practically NONE OF IT hit the MSM, preoccupied with
> their orgy of triviality, obsessing over a fraction of Trump?s comments,
> entirely avoiding the fact that Clinton?s actions contradict her lies, and
> Trump?s comments state the opposite of the script we?re all supposed to be
> reading from (corny emphasis intentional?)
> 
> 
> 
> Exactly as you stated, one of the most blatant examples is the candidates?
> stance on Russia, which any high-school newsletter writer?let alone
> ?professional journalist? (say that without a fucking sneer)?worth their
> salt would be expected to pick up on.
> 
> 
> 
> But THANK GOD we?ve got intellectual juggernauts like Robert de Niro to
> weigh in with their considered opinion?
> 
> 
> 
> The  hypocricy  and general lack of self awareness is mind boggling.
> 
> 
> Hence the tenor of my emails?I?m SO SICK of the fire-hose-on-full-blast
> stream of fucking bullshit from the ?media? (shills almost to a man),
> parroted by conscientious little fucking meme replicators (?just some stupid
> email diversion kinda ploy by Trump?IGNORE IT!?) and the Social Sanction
> Police, on constant alert against Narrative Transgressors, ready to flick
> out flaccid one-liner rebukes about THE TENOR OF YOUR MESSAGE and WHAT
> BINARY PRE-DEFINED CATEGORY THAT PUTS YOU INTO *nods knowingly* and honest
> to fucking God seem to think that constitutes a point LET ALONE AN ARGUMENT.
> 
> You?d think people would be sick of being led around by their nose-rings
> through a circus sideshow Willy Wonka Boatride of delusional bullshit by
> corporate sell-outs, but the sad fact is they buy into it so much they join
> the club and go door-knocking to convince other moo?ing idiots to join the
> herd?and moo sternly in your general direction if you step out of line.
> 
> 
> 
> And they?re STILL in the dark about the election; who won, WHY, the turnout,
> why Trump?s not the issue, why Putin?s not the issue, how this ties into
> Brexit, hrm I guess we did kinda get TOTALLY FUCKING SCREWED FOR FALLING FOR
> OBAMA <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61_oTVxSVWU> ?TWICE
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnByPYnqq7s> ?desperately flailing about
> for Someone In Charge to hand them a new script, God forbid they have to
> wing it and demonstrate the results of what?s (not) going on in that empty
> echo chamber?
> 
> 
> 
> What a fucking JOKE <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7UVOay0GQw> .
> 
> 
> 
> From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of kevin
> Sent: Friday, 11 November 2016 12:31 a.m.
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 165, Issue 39 Brendan Message 1
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> 
> 
> I`m with you Brendan.
> 
> We are in the Princess Diana car crash days of mass hysteria and knee jerk
> knicker wetting.
> 
> We had a candidate who was openly rattling the sabre at Russia (a very
> psychopathic game) whilst the
> 
> other candidate has been openly making overtures toward making peace with
> them and now people are talking
> 
> about Trump creating a third world ward when he is talking about scaling
> things back.
> 
> He has had the whole corrupt media apparatus-that anarchists are so fond of
> being `wise to`-against him and those self same
> 
> anarchists etc are citing that as the reason why it is just UNTHINKABLE that
> Trump could be elected.
> 
> The  hypocricy  and general lack of self awareness is mind boggling.
> 
> The same anarchists and leftists who were such a central part of the
> `Occupy` movement are now openly weeping and kicking off in
> 
> the streets because the candidate who was bought and paid for by Goldman
> Sachs didn't get in.
> 
> The same people who go on anti Globalisation demos are now kicking off
> because the Globalisation candidate didn`t get in.
> 
> The same people who have been demanding `change` and an `end` to corrupt
> politicians are now terrified because Trump is `not a politician.`
> 
> 
> 
> Most people are shocked by this result because they really haven`t been
> paying any attention- many people could see this coming a mile off  -
> 
> The reason so many people are shocked is because they are stuck on Facebook
> and Twitter getting a repetitive loop of similar information from their
> friends
> 
> and getting their information from BBC News and The Guardian and all the
> rest of the bought and paid for  global media.
> 
> We live in a world where its never been easier to get hardore information
> from people seriously boned up on things and complete alternative
> 
> opinions to the mainstream spoon fed garbage- and all I see is people
> posting up Guardian shite like `Johnny Marr on 10 reasons we simply MUST
> stop Trump.`
> 
> 
> 
> Its a complete controlled echo chamber and you need to get your head out of
> it.
> 
> Its funny- people watch dystopian films like 1984 and Faranheit 451 and they
> always like to assume that if such a situation
> 
> existed then they would be the person on the outside, they would be the
> rebel who could see what was going on. Well here
> 
> we are right in the middle of a crazymaking dystopia  like something out of
> a 60`s science fiction novel and people are all
> 
> blind to it.
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:16:10 +1300
> From: "Brendan Quinn" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz
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> Subject: Re: [kj] Trump
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> That said, as Obama pointed out, the peaceful transition from one president
> to another - no matter how much they disagree - is the hallmark of
> democracy.
> 
> BULLSHIT! Stop buying into platitudes and dead metaphors?and READ WHAT YOU
> JUST WROTE. So the most laudable act of a democratic citizen is to ensure
> the peaceful transition of power from one despot to another?!
> 
> 
> 
> Obama?s a fucking joke, he?s flushed the US Constitution down the shitter
> and here you are lapping up his GOBSHITE DRIVEL.
> 
> 
> 
> The GroupThink / meme replication going on is beyond a fucking joke for a
> group of supposed counter-culture / free thinkers / subversives /
> whatever?I?m so sick of this false fucking narrative.
> 
> 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribune_of_the_Plebs
> 
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribune_of_the_Plebs>
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribune_of_the_Plebs> Tribune of the Plebs -
> Wikipedia
> 
> en.wikipedia.org
> 
> Tribunus plebis, rendered in English as tribune of the plebs, tribune of the
> people, or plebeian tribune, was the first office of the Roman state that
> was open to the ...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The checks and balances on power have utterly gone down the gurgler, how
> anyone in the US could mention they?re a journalist without blushing is
> totally beyond me.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jpwhkj---
> via Gathering
> Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2016 10:55 p.m.
> To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com <mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Trump
> 
> 
> 
> Yes - Margaret Thatcher promised to bring unity where there was discord,
> Dubya's speech in 2000 was similarly reconciliatory.  So it's standard
> stuff.
> 
> 
> 
> That said, as Obama pointed out, the peaceful transition from one president
> to another - no matter how much they disagree - is the hallmark of
> democracy.  So, much as I regret the result, and its likely impact on
> America and the rest of the world, it's democracy folks.  Just gotta work
> harder to make the world a better place - more intelligent and more
> informed, more thoughtful, kinder.  Most of us can't be Mandela, MLK, etc,
> but we all have the opportunity to make the world a bit better tomorrow than
> it is today.
> 
> 
> 
> But yeah, I'm ashamed of the bigotry, hatred, & narrow-mindedness that's
> been tapped into and legitimised.
> 
> 
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com
> <mailto:paul.rangecroft at gmail.com> >
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net> >
> Sent: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 6:10
> Subject: Re: [kj] Trump
> 
> Thank you, Alex, for brilliantly summing up how I feel. Most victors give
> those reconciliatory sort of acceptance speeches. I don't think they mean
> much. The morally-bankrupt thundercunt's ego will be through the White House
> roof. What did he have to do to lose? This election would have been more
> dignified if the respective parties had put up an actual donkey and elephant
> as candidates. I don't understand people anymore. Brexit was embarrassing
> but this has... well, Trumped it. The ancient Chinese could never have
> imagined times so "interesting". So many Killing Joke lyrics come to mind I
> don't know which one to quote. We're fucked. Democracy: ya foired! On
> 11/9/16, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
>> wrote: > I realize there are some sharp differences of opinion here on the
> Gathering, > but as someone who fucking LIVES here, let me just say that I
> am > incalculably ashamed to be an American today. > > Regardless of your
> stance on policy -- not that T
> rump ever actually > discussed any tangible policies -- how anyone could
> spend five minutes > listening to that fatuous bag of excitement attempt to
> string coherent > sentence together and think: "yes, that man should hold
> the most powerful > office in the so-called Free World" is FUCKING
> STAGGERINGLY BEYOND MY > COMPREHENSION. > > If you think he's a champion for
> the unsung ---> You are FUCKING FOOLING > yourselves. He DOES NOT CARE about
> you, and that will doubtlessly become > obvious in short, catastrophic
> order. > > > > If you think he's going to "shake things up" in Washington
> -----> You are a > fucking idiot. Putting Trump in the White House is like
> putting a lit > firecracker in a broken toaster. Is it going to shake things
> up? You betcha. > Is it going to fix anything? NOPE. > > The message we are
> sending to the world and to OUR OWN CHILDREN is that > racism, antisemitism,
> proud anti-intellectualism, nativism, white > supremacist ideals, misogyny,
> sexism, homophobia, the dim
> inishment of a > woman's right to choose, bullying, demagoguery, incitement
> of violence, > avarice, wanton tax evasion, totalitarianism, climate change
> denial and > creationism ARE ALL PERFECTLY OKAY. > > If you're an American
> who voted for him here on the Gathering, you have > nothing but my undying
> contempt, and may the god of your choice forgive you, > because I sure as
> FUCK will not. > > I have many friends who are striving to make sense of
> this and espousing > messages of solidarity, fortitude and hope. I realize
> that's the correct > thing to do, and that in attempting same, I may find
> solace and comfort in > the words and actions of the many like minds, but I
> AM NOT THERE YET. > NOWHERE CLOSE. > > Being a dyed-in-the-wool native New
> Yorker, I have never had a great amount > of faith in my fellow American,
> because I am inherently a smug fucking snob, > and I am PERFECTLY OKAY WITH
> THAT. But, again, DO NOT BE FOOLED!! Trump > doesn't give fuck about the
> concerns of the American
> heartland's working > families. They were exploited and manipulated by his
> slavish appeals to the > lowest common denominator. > > It's simply
> pathetic. I am sickened to the very core. > > FUCK YOU, America. > > -Alex
> in NYC- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >>
> From: Christophe Barry >> Sent: Nov 9, 2016 11:57 AM >> To: "A list about
> all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >> Subject: Re: [kj] Trump >> >>
> F*ckin? ada >> >> De : Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net
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> <mailto:gathering at misera.net> > >> Date : mercredi 9 novembre 2016 09:58 >>
> ? : "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >>
> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net> > >> Cc : andr
> eas misera <andreasmisera at yahoo.de <mailto:andreasmisera at yahoo.de> >,
> "jpwhkj at aol.com <mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com> " >> <jpwhkj at aol.com
> <mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com> > >> Objet : Re: [kj] Trump >> >> Germans could say
> "Ach Du Schei?e" about that result. >> >> >> Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com
> <mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com> > schrieb am 12:44 Mittwoch, 9.November 2016: >>
>>>>> That's an "English" way of putting it!! >> >> Other words considered
> could be >> >> Gosh >> Golly >> my Lord! >> Steady on old chap! >> >> >> >>
> What a day Gatherers. What a day. >> >> >> On 9 Nov 2016, at 09:19,
> jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
>>>> wrote: >> >>> Blimey. >>> >>> >>>
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> Well thanks for enlightening us Brendan. It's refreshing to hear a calm and
> reasoned criticism of HC  - most of her critics come across as patronising
> angry wee dicks.
> 
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 at 10:04 Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz
> <mailto:bq at soundgardener.co.nz> > wrote:
> 
> So you?re all for the candidate who handed top level classified intel to
> every govt / terrorist / hacker group in the world on a silver platter,
> lied through her teeth about it, deleted emails after being subpoenaed, was
> fed questions in advance by a complicit media (and to my knowledge was
> never confronted with the fact by a single journalist; all attention going
> to uber-victim Donna Brazille, who?s ?used to being persecuted, as a
> Christian woman? ? poor thing, what the six-figure salary?), is married to
> quite likely serial rapist Bill Clinton who (innocently, I?m sure) visited
> Epstein?s pedo island 26 times (standing down Secret Service at least five
> times), and FUCKING ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.
> 
> 
> 
> *Arkancide* clusters of people committing suicide by shooting themselves in
> the back of the head twice?(and similar) surrounding the Clintons (small
> calibre point-blank headshot being the signature assassin hit), crushing
> the life out of themselves with barbells, on and on?couple this year I
> believe.
> 
> *James Foster*
> 
> 
> 
> How long have you spent looking into this stuff?
> 
> 
> 
> The US mainstream media are a fucking joke; your email is symptomatic of
> buying their bullshit hook line and sinker. The coverage of this election
> was one of the most embarrassing, blatant demonstrations of shameless
> bullshittery it?s been my misfortune to observe. Utterly fucking
> intolerable.
> 
> 
> 
> All you MSM victims in the UK are STILL totally fucking clueless about
> Brexit.
> 
> 
> 
> MSM victims in the US TOTALLY FUCKING CLUELESS about Trump, despite the
> salutary lesson of Brexit.
> 
> For the love of God, *TURN THE FUCKING IDIOT BOX OFF*.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] *On Behalf Of *Alex
> Smith
> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 November 2016 10:31 a.m.
> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net> >;
> A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net> >
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Trump
> 
> 
> 
> I realize there are some sharp differences of opinion here on the
> Gathering, but as someone who fucking LIVES here, let me just say that I am
> incalculably ashamed to be an American today.
> 
> 
> 
> Regardless of your stance on policy -- not that Trump ever actually
> discussed any tangible policies -- how anyone could spend five minutes
> listening to that fatuous bag of excitement attempt to string coherent
> sentence together and think: "yes, that man should hold the most powerful
> office in the so-called Free World" is FUCKING STAGGERINGLY BEYOND MY
> COMPREHENSION.
> 
> 
> 
> If you think he's a champion for the unsung ---> You are FUCKING FOOLING
> yourselves. He DOES NOT CARE about you, and that will doubtlessly become
> obvious in short, catastrophic order.
> 
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> 
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> 
> If you think he's going to "shake things up" in Washington -----> You are a
> fucking idiot. Putting Trump in the White House is like putting a lit
> firecracker in a broken toaster. Is it going to shake things up? You
> betcha. Is it going to fix anything? NOPE.
> 
> 
> 
> The message we are sending to the world and to OUR OWN CHILDREN is that
> racism, antisemitism, proud anti-intellectualism, nativism, white
> supremacist ideals, misogyny, sexism, homophobia, the diminishment of a
> woman's right to choose, bullying, demagoguery, incitement of violence,
> avarice, wanton tax evasion, totalitarianism, climate change denial and
> creationism ARE ALL PERFECTLY OKAY.
> 
> 
> 
> If you're an American who voted for him here on the Gathering, you have
> nothing but my undying contempt, and may the god of your choice forgive
> you, because I sure as FUCK will not.
> 
> 
> 
> I have many friends who are striving to make sense of this and espousing
> messages of solidarity, fortitude and hope. I realize that's the correct
> thing to do, and that in attempting same, I may find solace and comfort in
> the words and actions of the many like minds, but I AM NOT THERE YET.
> NOWHERE CLOSE.
> 
> 
> 
> Being a dyed-in-the-wool native New Yorker, I have never had a great amount
> of faith in my fellow American, because I am inherently a smug fucking
> snob, and I am PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THAT. But, again, DO NOT BE FOOLED!!
> Trump doesn't give fuck about the concerns of the American heartland's
> working families. They were exploited and manipulated by his slavish
> appeals to the lowest common denominator.
> 
> 
> 
> It's simply pathetic. I am sickened to the very core.
> 
> 
> 
> FUCK YOU, America.
> 
> 
> 
> -Alex in NYC-
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christophe Barry
> Sent: Nov 9, 2016 11:57 AM
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> Subject: Re: [kj] Trump
> 
> 
> F*ckin? ada
> 
> 
> 
> *De : *Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> > on behalf of andreas misera
> via Gathering <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net> >
> *R?pondre ? : *andreas misera <andreasmisera at yahoo.de
> <mailto:andreasmisera at yahoo.de> >, "A list about all
> things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net> >
> *Date : *mercredi 9 novembre 2016 09:58
> *? : *"A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <
> gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net> >
> *Cc : *andreas misera <andreasmisera at yahoo.de
> <mailto:andreasmisera at yahoo.de> >, "jpwhkj at aol.com <mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com> "
> <
> jpwhkj at aol.com <mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com> >
> *Objet : *Re: [kj] Trump
> 
> 
> 
> Germans could say "Ach Du Schei?e" about that result.
> 
> 
> 
> Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com <mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com> > schrieb am 12:44
> Mittwoch, 9.November 2016:
> 
> 
> 
> That's an "English" way of putting it!!
> 
> 
> 
> Other words considered could be
> 
> 
> 
> Gosh
> 
> Golly
> 
> my Lord!
> 
> Steady on old chap!
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> 
> What a day Gatherers. What a day.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 9 Nov 2016, at 09:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net> >
> wrote:
> 
> Blimey.
> 
> 
> 
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