[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 160, Issue 21--Message 4--PAUL
kevin
patrickvieira at msn.com
Sun Jun 26 14:20:45 EDT 2016
Agreed Paul -email and Facebook whilst admittedly good for certain forms of communication are often totally the worst way to have a discussion on such complex subjects -I'd love to get together with a bunch of joke fans away from a hectic gig environment and discuss 'the complex issues of the day 'that the band address -
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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:27:22 +0100
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P West connected? Well there's a first for everything.
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> On 26 Jun 2016, at 17:22, P West <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I do think that you are getting a bit carried away there, Jim .
>
> Nazi ideology and the UK choosing to be governed by itself , rather than be governed by Brussels.
>
> I cannot see the connection, myself
>
>
>
> From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: 26 June 2016 13:18
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Cc: Jim Harper
> Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
>
> And you can guarantee all those assholes (Trump, Le Pen) will now use Britain was a prime example of support for their cause.
>
> My country, turned into a poster child for racists, Nazis and imperialist Americans. Absolutely sickened.
>
> Jim.
>
> On Sun, 26/6/16, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com
> Date: Sunday, 26 June, 2016, 13:52
>
> Gutted. Leaving the EU is going to
> sign our economic death warrant. The future doesn't
> look very bright for the younger generation...
>
>
>
>
> Look at the people who are pleased:
>
>
>
>
>
> Johnson
>
> Gove
>
> Farage
>
>
>
>
>
> and abroad:
>
>
>
>
>
> Putin
>
> Trump
>
> Marine Le Pen
>
> Geert Wilders
>
>
>
>
>
> ...which just about says it all.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original
> Message-----
>
> From: Pagan <scotgothwitch at sky.com>
>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
>
> Sent: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:19
>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> Needless to say,
> the lies will just keep on coming out. Farage's
> response to being called on the NHS one though, is
> particularly disgusting. At best, it shows him up for the
> complete numpty he is. If Leave can make a
> "mistake" in regards to ?350m to the NHS and then
> just try to brush it off, it doesn't bode well for other
> campaign pledges. Not to mention that being so blatant,
> suggests they think folks heads button up the back.
>
>
>
>
> No big surprise about misleading the electorate though
> especially after the Scottish independence
> referendum...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "It's disingenuous to say that No means out
> and Yes means in, when actually the opposite is true. No
> means we stay in, we are a member of the European
> Union."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Ruth Davidson MSP, 2nd September 2014, at the STV
> debate in the Assembly Rooms in Edinburgh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "What is process for removing our EU
> citizenship? Voting yes. #scotdecides"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Better Together @UK_Together, 2nd September
> 2014
>
>
>
>
>
> So that panned out well for the people in Scotland who
> voted No to Scottish independence primarily, or solely,
> because they believed it was the only way to remain in the
> EU.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: "fatpotanga ." <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
>
>
> Date: 26/06/2016 10:07 (GMT+00:00)
>
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
> band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
>
>
>
>
>
> Yup. Cameron has been a disgrace. You don't want to
> lose your house, you don't throw your door key into the
> pot. All for the sake of his career and another 4 years at
> the top. "I love this country" he said as he
> leapt from the ship.
> and blatant lies from the Leave campaign are equally
> disgusting. I know several people who voted leave, purely
> based on the NHS ?350m pledge that turned out to be a
> 'mistake' the very day the result was declared.
> Deliberately misleading the electorate should be punishable
> by law and surely nullifies a proportion of the vote..
>
> I think the result was a surprise to all sides, and
> if it was held again tomorrow, I think it'd
> probably be a very different outcome.
>
>
>
>
>
> Anyway, onwards....
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 26 June 2016, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Brexit was a disaster. Cameron traded our future for the
> right wing vote at the general election and then he ran
> away.
>
>
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You can't see the connection between the French National Front and Nazi ideology? Blimey. Get yourself down to Specsavers sharpish.
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To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:23
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
I do think that you are getting a bit carried away there, Jim .
Nazi ideology and the UK choosing to be governed by itself , rather than be governed by Brussels.
I cannot see the connection, myself
From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: 26 June 2016 13:18
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Cc: Jim Harper
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
And you can guarantee all those assholes (Trump, Le Pen) will now use Britain was a prime example of support for their cause.
My country, turned into a poster child for racists, Nazis and imperialist Americans. Absolutely sickened.
Jim.
On Sun, 26/6/16, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
To: gathering at misera.net
Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com
Date: Sunday, 26 June, 2016, 13:52
Gutted. Leaving the EU is going to
sign our economic death warrant. The future doesn't
look very bright for the younger generation...
Look at the people who are pleased:
Johnson
Gove
Farage
and abroad:
Putin
Trump
Marine Le Pen
Geert Wilders
...which just about says it all.
-----Original
Message-----
From: Pagan <scotgothwitch at sky.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:19
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
Needless to say,
the lies will just keep on coming out. Farage's
response to being called on the NHS one though, is
particularly disgusting. At best, it shows him up for the
complete numpty he is. If Leave can make a
"mistake" in regards to ?350m to the NHS and then
just try to brush it off, it doesn't bode well for other
campaign pledges. Not to mention that being so blatant,
suggests they think folks heads button up the back.
No big surprise about misleading the electorate though
especially after the Scottish independence
referendum...
"It's disingenuous to say that No means out
and Yes means in, when actually the opposite is true. No
means we stay in, we are a member of the European
Union."
- Ruth Davidson MSP, 2nd September 2014, at the STV
debate in the Assembly Rooms in Edinburgh
"What is process for removing our EU
citizenship? Voting yes. #scotdecides"
- Better Together @UK_Together, 2nd September
2014
So that panned out well for the people in Scotland who
voted No to Scottish independence primarily, or solely,
because they believed it was the only way to remain in the
EU.
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From: "fatpotanga ." <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
Date: 26/06/2016 10:07 (GMT+00:00)
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
Yup. Cameron has been a disgrace. You don't want to
lose your house, you don't throw your door key into the
pot. All for the sake of his career and another 4 years at
the top. "I love this country" he said as he
leapt from the ship.
and blatant lies from the Leave campaign are equally
disgusting. I know several people who voted leave, purely
based on the NHS ?350m pledge that turned out to be a
'mistake' the very day the result was declared.
Deliberately misleading the electorate should be punishable
by law and surely nullifies a proportion of the vote..
I think the result was a surprise to all sides, and
if it was held again tomorrow, I think it'd
probably be a very different outcome.
Anyway, onwards....
On Sunday, 26 June 2016, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
wrote:
Brexit was a disaster. Cameron traded our future for the
right wing vote at the general election and then he ran
away.
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From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
To: Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
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As I said, I was referring to the fact that racists, Nazis and American imperialist (Wilders, Le Pen and Trump, all mentioned in the preceding email) are using the result of this referendum as evidence of widespread popular support for their unpleasant ideologies.
At no point I did not make comparisons between the British pro-Exit campaign and Nazi ideology.
Jim.
On Sun, 26/6/16, P West <fluke1 at live.co.uk> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
To: "Jim Harper" <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Sunday, 26 June, 2016, 17:22
#yiv9793645090 #yiv9793645090 -- P
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I do think that you are getting a bit carried away
there,?Jim .
Nazi ideology and the UK choosing to be governed by
itself , rather than be governed by Brussels.
I cannot see the connection, myself
From: Gathering
<gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Jim Harper
via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: 26 June 2016 13:18
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)
Cc: Jim Harper
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
?
And you
can guarantee all those assholes (Trump, Le Pen) will now
use Britain was a prime example of support for their
cause.
My country, turned into a poster child for racists, Nazis
and imperialist Americans. Absolutely sickened.
Jim.
On Sun, 26/6/16, jpwhkj--- via Gathering
<gathering at misera.net> wrote:
?Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
?To: gathering at misera.net
?Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com
?Date: Sunday, 26 June, 2016, 13:52
?
?Gutted. ?Leaving the EU is going to
?sign our economic death warrant. ?The future
doesn't
?look very bright for the younger generation...
?
?
?
?
?Look at the people who are pleased:
?
?
?
?
?
?Johnson
?
?Gove
?
?Farage
?
?
?
?
?
?and abroad:
?
?
?
?
?
?Putin
?
?Trump
?
?Marine Le Pen
?
?Geert Wilders
?
?
?
?
?
?...which just about says it all.
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
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?Message-----
?
?From: Pagan <scotgothwitch at sky.com>
?
?To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
?<gathering at misera.net>
?
?Sent: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:19
?
?Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?Needless to say,
?the lies will just keep on coming out. ?Farage's
?response to being called on the NHS one though, is
?particularly disgusting. ?At best, it shows him up for
the
?complete numpty he is. ?If Leave can make a
?"mistake" in regards to ?350m to the NHS and
then
?just try to brush it off, it doesn't bode well for
other
?campaign pledges. ?Not to mention that being so
blatant,
?suggests they think folks heads button up the back.
?
?
?
?
?No big surprise about misleading the electorate though
?especially after the Scottish independence
?referendum...
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?"It's disingenuous to say that No means out
?and Yes means in, when actually the opposite is true.
?No
?means we stay in, we are a member of the European
?Union."
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?- Ruth Davidson MSP, 2nd September 2014, at the STV
?debate in the Assembly Rooms in Edinburgh?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?"What is process for removing our EU
?citizenship? ?Voting yes. ?#scotdecides"
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?- Better Together @UK_Together, 2nd September
?2014
?
?
?
?
?
?So that panned out well for the people in Scotland who
?voted No to Scottish independence primarily, or solely,
?because they believed it was the only way to remain in
the
?EU.
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?
?-------- Original message --------
?
?From: "fatpotanga ."
<fatpotanga at gmail.com>
?
?
?Date: 26/06/2016? 10:07? (GMT+00:00)
?
?To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
?band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
?
?
?Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
?
?
?
?
?
?Yup. Cameron has?been a disgrace. You don't want
to
?lose your house, you don't throw your door key into
the
?pot. All for the sake of his career and?another 4 years
at
?the top.?"I love this country" he said as he
?leapt from the ship.
??and blatant lies from the Leave campaign are equally
?disgusting. I know several?people who voted leave,
purely
?based?on the NHS ?350m pledge that turned out to be a
?'mistake' the very day the result?was
declared.
?Deliberately misleading the electorate should be
punishable
?by law and surely nullifies a proportion of the vote..
?
?I ?think?the result was a surprise to all sides,?and
?if it was held again tomorrow, I think?it'd
?probably?be a very?different outcome.
?
?
?
?
?
?Anyway, onwards....
?
?
?
?On Sunday, 26 June 2016, Rob Moss
<rob.moss at gmx.com>
?wrote:
?
?
?
?
?Brexit was a disaster. Cameron traded our future for
the
?right wing vote at the general election and then he ran
?away.?
?
?
?
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Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
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The two subjects of discussion are Nazi ideology and Brexit , I must admit, it gets a bit confusing when you add Le Penn into the equation, when you do not explain the connection .
Its the curse of the one sentence post trying cover a complex situation
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From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: 26 June 2016 16:37
To: gathering at misera.net
Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
You can't see the connection between the French National Front and Nazi ideology? Blimey. Get yourself down to Specsavers sharpish.
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From: P West <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 17:23
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
I do think that you are getting a bit carried away there, Jim .
Nazi ideology and the UK choosing to be governed by itself , rather than be governed by Brussels.
I cannot see the connection, myself
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From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net<mailto:bounces at misera.net>> on behalf of Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
Sent: 26 June 2016 13:18
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Cc: Jim Harper
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
And you can guarantee all those assholes (Trump, Le Pen) will now use Britain was a prime example of support for their cause.
My country, turned into a poster child for racists, Nazis and imperialist Americans. Absolutely sickened.
Jim.
On Sun, 26/6/16, jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
To: gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>
Cc: jpwhkj at aol.com<mailto:jpwhkj at aol.com>
Date: Sunday, 26 June, 2016, 13:52
Gutted. Leaving the EU is going to
sign our economic death warrant. The future doesn't
look very bright for the younger generation...
Look at the people who are pleased:
Johnson
Gove
Farage
and abroad:
Putin
Trump
Marine Le Pen
Geert Wilders
...which just about says it all.
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From: Pagan <scotgothwitch at sky.com<mailto:scotgothwitch at sky.com>>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
<gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
Sent: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:19
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
Needless to say,
the lies will just keep on coming out. Farage's
response to being called on the NHS one though, is
particularly disgusting. At best, it shows him up for the
complete numpty he is. If Leave can make a
"mistake" in regards to ?350m to the NHS and then
just try to brush it off, it doesn't bode well for other
campaign pledges. Not to mention that being so blatant,
suggests they think folks heads button up the back.
No big surprise about misleading the electorate though
especially after the Scottish independence
referendum...
"It's disingenuous to say that No means out
and Yes means in, when actually the opposite is true. No
means we stay in, we are a member of the European
Union."
- Ruth Davidson MSP, 2nd September 2014, at the STV
debate in the Assembly Rooms in Edinburgh
"What is process for removing our EU
citizenship? Voting yes. #scotdecides"
- Better Together @UK_Together, 2nd September
2014
So that panned out well for the people in Scotland who
voted No to Scottish independence primarily, or solely,
because they believed it was the only way to remain in the
EU.
-------- Original message --------
From: "fatpotanga ." <fatpotanga at gmail.com<mailto:fatpotanga at gmail.com>>
Date: 26/06/2016 10:07 (GMT+00:00)
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)" <gathering at misera.net<mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
Subject: Re: [kj] Unsubbed?
Yup. Cameron has been a disgrace. You don't want to
lose your house, you don't throw your door key into the
pot. All for the sake of his career and another 4 years at
the top. "I love this country" he said as he
leapt from the ship.
and blatant lies from the Leave campaign are equally
disgusting. I know several people who voted leave, purely
based on the NHS ?350m pledge that turned out to be a
'mistake' the very day the result was declared.
Deliberately misleading the electorate should be punishable
by law and surely nullifies a proportion of the vote..
I think the result was a surprise to all sides, and
if it was held again tomorrow, I think it'd
probably be a very different outcome.
Anyway, onwards....
On Sunday, 26 June 2016, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com<mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com>>
wrote:
Brexit was a disaster. Cameron traded our future for the
right wing vote at the general election and then he ran
away.
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