[kj] Degrees of Separation between Bowie & the Joke

Jim Harper jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Jan 19 09:51:13 EST 2016


An example of said lyrics: "You let your Starman drown, you let your Spiders down"

Jim.

On Tue, 19/1/16, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kj] Degrees of Separation between Bowie & the Joke
 To: "Alex Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>, "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
 Date: Tuesday, 19 January, 2016, 14:48
 
 I don't know if it's related, but one
 of the tracks from Zilch's 3.2.1. album (What's Up Mr Jones)
 appears to be very critical of David Bowie. Aside from the
 title, there is no explicit reference to Bowie,but the
 song's lyrics contain multiple references to several of his
 songs. With Raven and Hide both gone, I doubt we'll ever
 know about that one.
 
 Jim.
 
 On Tue, 19/1/16, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
 wrote:
 
  Subject: [kj] Degrees of Separation between Bowie & the
 Joke
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Tuesday, 19 January, 2016, 14:33
  
  
  Obviously, in recent days, I've been fixated on Bowie
 (much
  like a whole lot of people), which got me thinking of him
 in
  terms of him and Killing Joke.
  
  I can't say that prior to Bowie's death I'd ever heard
 much
  from the members of the `Joke about the man. I do seem to
  remember RAVEN unloading on Bowie here on the Gathering
 many
  eons ago (obviously) for Bowie's alleged abandonment of
 Mick
  Ronson circa the guitarist's death, but I don't recall the
  specifics. (Possibly something as simple as Bowie never
  visiting Ronson in hospital). But, again, I don't have all
  the facts.
  
  Then, of course, there is Hansa. Would that recording
 studio
  (where everyone from the Joke to Depeche Mode to U2 and
  beyond have recorded) be a third as storied and prominent
 in
  the lore of rock history had it not been for Bowie and Eno
  recording the Berlin trilogy there? Then that triggered
 the
  memory of the anecdote of Geordie going bonkers with a
 fire
  extinguisher there one drunken evening and befouling a
 piano
  ... begging the question: If true, would that have been
 the
  piano heard on "Heroes"?
  
  Just thinking out load. Always thought there was a Killing
  Joke-ish vibe to "Heart's Filthy Lesson" as well.
  -Alex in NYC
  
  
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