[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 155, Issue 19 Jaz`s gaff!!

Adam Helfer devacor at aol.com
Sat Jan 9 14:04:44 EST 2016


I was looking at the postings from fans from the cancelled Baltimore show- one guy said it's the 3rd cancelled KJ show he's tried to go to, and has never seen them.
That's just dismal and I assume, unprecedented ..

Adam



> On Jan 8, 2016, at 8:22 PM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> He seems strikingly carefree for a man whose American tour was just cancelled. Just sayin’.
> 
> Alex in NYC
> 
> 
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>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 6:03 PM, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Its Jaz`s gaff...looks nice mind...
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPkcIxCZ5f4
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>>  2. Re: Gathering Digest, Vol 155, Issue 18 (Jim Harper)
>>  3. Re: Deception...Deception... (Rheinhold Squeegee)
>>  4. Levitation (adrianwason at btinternet.com)
>>  5. Re: Levitation (jon chapman)
>>  6. Re: Levitation (Rheinhold Squeegee)
>>  7. Re: Levitation (Rheinhold Squeegee)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:21:26 +0000
>> From: kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com>
>> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 155, Issue 18
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>> That is utterly taking the piss man. I`m sorry to hear that.
>> I`d like to see that one discussed on Judge Judy-it would be intereting.
>> So if Clodplay pull out of playing Wembley Stadium I can say as the pomoter-` dont worry guys-its
>> still going ahead- and I`m sure the advetised support acts Rebel MC and the reformed Kingmaker
>> are going to put on a fantastic show for everyone.. `
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 14:56:10 +0000
>> From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
>> To: Gathering Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: [kj] Deception...Deception...
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>> This has nothing to do with KJ, of course:
>> 
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>> The Soft Moon (a decent band) is trying to salvage their part of the US tour by playing some of the dates already scheduled as openers for KJ.
>> 
>> 
>> In at least one instance (St. Paul), the promoter has not cancelled the existing show and is now promoting it as a Soft Moon gig.
>> 
>> 
>> No cancellation = no refund.
>> 
>> 
>> I would probably go see Soft Moon regardless, but not for $25 and now I have an extra three tickets I cannot use.
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>> I am working through this with the ticketing company (Ticketfly) and will let others know the result in case this happens elsewhere.
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>> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 16:09:11 +0000
>> From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
>> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Deception...Deception...
>> Message-ID: <DUB131-W407F06BE4CB720A1A44EFAF5F50 at phx.gbl>
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>> That's is shocking........  bang out of order.
>> 
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>> 
>> From: kjlist at live.com
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 14:56:10 +0000
>> Subject: [kj] Deception...Deception...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This has nothing to do with KJ, of course:
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>> 
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>> 
>> The Soft Moon (a decent band) is trying to salvage their part of the US tour by playing some of the dates already scheduled as openers for KJ.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In at least one instance (St. Paul), the promoter has not cancelled the existing show and is now promoting it as a Soft Moon gig.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> No cancellation = no refund.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would probably go see Soft Moon regardless, but not for $25 and now I have an extra three tickets I cannot use.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am working through this with the ticketing company (Ticketfly) and will let others know the result in case this happens elsewhere.
>> 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:31:04 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>       <gathering at misera.net>
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>> I can see why the support band might want to do an honourable thing and try and put on a show for the fans, but for the promoters it's just another way to screw the fans.
>> 
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>> On Fri, 8/1/16, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
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>> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 155, Issue 18
>> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Friday, 8 January, 2016, 11:21
>> 
>> That is utterly taking the piss man.
>> I`m sorry to hear that.
>> I`d like to see that one discussed on Judge Judy-it would be
>> intereting.
>> So if Clodplay pull out of playing Wembley Stadium I can say
>> as the pomoter-` dont worry guys-its
>> still going ahead- and I`m sure the advetised support acts
>> Rebel MC and the reformed Kingmaker
>> are going to put on a fantastic show for everyone.. `
>> 
>> ________________________________________
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>> on behalf of gathering-request at misera.net
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 14:56:10 +0000
>> From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
>> To: Gathering Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: [kj] Deception...Deception...
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>> This has nothing to do with KJ, of course:
>> 
>> 
>> The Soft Moon (a decent band) is trying to salvage their
>> part of the US tour by playing some of the dates already
>> scheduled as openers for KJ.
>> 
>> 
>> In at least one instance (St. Paul), the promoter has not
>> cancelled the existing show and is now promoting it as a
>> Soft Moon gig.
>> 
>> 
>> No cancellation = no refund.
>> 
>> 
>> I would probably go see Soft Moon regardless, but not for
>> $25 and now I have an extra three tickets I cannot use.
>> 
>> 
>> I am working through this with the ticketing company
>> (Ticketfly) and will let others know the result in case this
>> happens elsewhere.
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>> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 16:09:11 +0000
>> From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
>> To: "gathering at misera.net"
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Deception...Deception...
>> Message-ID: <DUB131-W407F06BE4CB720A1A44EFAF5F50 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> That's is shocking........? bang out of order.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: kjlist at live.com
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 14:56:10 +0000
>> Subject: [kj] Deception...Deception...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This has nothing to do with KJ, of course:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Soft Moon (a decent band) is trying to salvage their
>> part of the US tour by playing some of the dates already
>> scheduled as openers for KJ.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In at least one instance (St. Paul), the promoter has not
>> cancelled the existing show and is now promoting it as a
>> Soft Moon gig.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> No cancellation = no refund.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would probably go see Soft Moon regardless, but not for
>> $25 and now I have an extra three tickets I cannot use.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am working through this with the ticketing company
>> (Ticketfly) and will let others know the result in case this
>> happens elsewhere.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 16:59:04 +0000
>> From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>       <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Deception...Deception...
>> Message-ID:
>>       <CY1PR13MB05028987F4F2409494BF22B4A0F60 at CY1PR13MB0502.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>> This was apparently isolated to the St Paul promoter and has since been resolved. I was able to contact Ticketfly directly and request/receive a full refund, although it's been two days and still hasn't posted to my CC.
>> 
>> 
>> Soft Moon is definitely a band worth checking out, now that you've got a free night and ticket prices are only about $15.
>> 
>> 
>> Their fans are idiots, however, with all this "Killing who?" and "Soft Moon should have been the headliner in the first place" nonsense, but the band him/themselves have been supportive and gracious.
>> 
>> 
>> Soft Moon fans are invited to check back in 30 years to see how their band is doing...
>> 
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:09 AM
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Deception...Deception...
>> 
>> That's is shocking........  bang out of order.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: kjlist at live.com
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 14:56:10 +0000
>> Subject: [kj] Deception...Deception...
>> 
>> This has nothing to do with KJ, of course:
>> 
>> 
>> The Soft Moon (a decent band) is trying to salvage their part of the US tour by playing some of the dates already scheduled as openers for KJ.
>> 
>> 
>> In at least one instance (St. Paul), the promoter has not cancelled the existing show and is now promoting it as a Soft Moon gig.
>> 
>> 
>> No cancellation = no refund.
>> 
>> 
>> I would probably go see Soft Moon regardless, but not for $25 and now I have an extra three tickets I cannot use.
>> 
>> 
>> I am working through this with the ticketing company (Ticketfly) and will let others know the result in case this happens elsewhere.
>> 
>> 
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>> From: "adrianwason at btinternet.com" <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \\(the band!\\)"
>>       <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: [kj] Levitation
>> Message-ID:
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>> I see there is some sort of re-issue or unreleased stuff coming out soon
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>> From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>
>> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Levitation
>> Message-ID: <DUB131-W555BB35ACF9E1B371A4B7FF5F60 at phx.gbl>
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>> Haven't they bled us dry already ?!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:04:00 +0000
>> From: adrianwason at btinternet.com
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Subject: [kj] Levitation
>> 
>> I see there is some sort of re-issue or unreleased stuff coming out soon
>> 
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>> From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
>> To: "adrianwason at btinternet.com" <adrianwason at btinternet.com>, "A list
>>       about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Levitation
>> Message-ID:
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>> Would you care to elaborate on that statement?
>> 
>> 
>> Unless its the dvd release for "TD&RS." The augurs noted the flight patterns of sparrows and prophesied that it would finally see a release in 2016.
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of adrianwason at btinternet.com <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 2:04 PM
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)
>> Subject: [kj] Levitation
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>> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 21:57:26 +0000
>> From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
>> To: "adrianwason at btinternet.com" <adrianwason at btinternet.com>,
>>       "Gathering Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Levitation
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>> Of course. Well, duh. I will read mail headers next time.
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: adrianwason at btinternet.com <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 3:51 PM
>> To: kjlist at live.com
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Levitation
>> 
>> 
>> sorry I was talking about Levitation the band-Terry Bickers-they were compared to KJ in early 90s
>> 
>> 
>> ----Original message----
>>> From : kjlist at live.com
>> Date : 08/01/2016 - 21:27 (GMTST)
>> To : adrianwason at btinternet.com, gathering at misera.net
>> Subject : Re: [kj] Levitation
>> 
>> 
>> Would you care to elaborate on that statement?
>> 
>> 
>> Unless its the dvd release for "TD&RS." The augurs noted the flight patterns of sparrows and prophesied that it would finally see a release in 2016.
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of adrianwason at btinternet.com <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 2:04 PM
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)
>> Subject: [kj] Levitation
>> 
>> 
>> I see there is some sort of re-issue or unreleased stuff coming out soon
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