[kj] Anniversaries - Brighter 86 / Democracy 96 / Hosannas 06

fatpotanga . fatpotanga at gmail.com
Tue Apr 12 12:38:47 EDT 2016


Btats is a wonderful album. It was very good live. So there. I think the cd
with what were B sides added (victory, ecstacy, goodbye to the village
etc)  probably taints the experience a little.

Democracy was a complete disappointment - would love to hear it with all
the loops Youth removed but that ain't gonna happen.
Ho's-Anus (as raven once referred to it on here) is killing joke at their
most destructive. It's not a bad album (terrible mix - car speaker ffs?!)
but for me epitomises the fat drunkenness of the time. If raven hadn't have
passed it would have marked the beginning of the end. I didn't like the
direction they were headed. The video to the title track is almost as
embarrassing as the SOJA rap.
On 12 Apr 2016 17:15, "wessidetempest ." <wessidetempest at hotmail.com> wrote:

> BTATS is the most consistent album of the three. My least favorite of that
> era and I like the songs more live.
>
> Democracy has some solid songs with some filler and goofy production. You
> can tell everyone was burned out on each other and Killing Joke as a whole.
>
> Hossannass is my least favorite even it had some of thee best Geordie
> riffs ever. It's a "could've been so much more" kind. Record. Songs are to
> long. Recording stinks. Jaz is probably at his worst vocally and lyrically.
> You can tell they blew all of the production money on cigars and brandy and
> whatever else.
>
> On Apr 12, 2016, at 3:50 AM, C Jr <nomeanswhat at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> BTATS - a good album, some pretty solid songs, despite the 'poppier'
> sound, production and textures... its heart is in the right place, good
> lyrics and mood throughout... Neither their best, nor worst... A logic and
> understandable step in the band's evolution, I'd say.
>
> DEMOCRACY - one of my favorite KJ albums... I love almost everything about
> it, even the murky production... had Mass and Four Stations made the cut,
> it would probably be my favorite of the bunch.
>
> HFTBOH - I concur that most of the songs are a bit too long, still, I like
> the album... it's a step down from 2003's return, but also a necessary
> transition into Absolut Dissent territory.
>
>
>
> Apart from OTG, KJ is yet to disappoint me.
>
>
> mvh
> -Jr.
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 6:08 AM, T.B. <planetary at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> For me, Id rank these three from best to worst as:
>>
>> Democracy - I actually love about half this album.  The drums are kind of
>> plodding and indistinct, buried in the wall of sound production (that
>> reminds me of Steve Brown's work on The Cult's aborted "Peace" album) on
>> most tracks but the title track, Absent Friends and Lanterns are standouts
>> that I never get tired of hearing. If "Mass" and Four Stations Of The Sun"
>> had made the album instead of a couple lesser tracks, this would rank much
>> closer to Pandemonium.
>>
>> Hosannas - Probably the closest thing to hearing Geordie's raw demos.
>> It's far from a good album, but some songs have an almost hypnotic quality,
>> "Judas Goat" being the best example.  I'd almost like to hear this album
>> with no vocals, it would probably work better for me.
>>
>> Brighter Than A Thousand Suns - I actually went and pulled my original EG
>> cd of this album today and attempted to give it a listen for the first time
>> in several years....  I (still) really do not like anything about this
>> album, the dated production, especially regarding the drums and the
>> synth-heavy angle they took with this album utterly kill this one for me.
>> I never would have guessed Big Paul played on this album without looking at
>> the credits.  For me, this album is in a dead heat with Outside The Gate as
>> worst KJ album - I suppose it's no shock they are consecutive albums in the
>> bands period of steep creative decline.
>>
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