[kj] SWANS touring in October

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I'm torn. I'm a large admirer of Swans and Gira (and several others) involved.

But the whole act, response outcome etc of rape is extremely sensitive, difficult situation.

Now there seems to be another accusation from her on a band mate. Which he denies.

What is worse is that no matter what the outcome is it will be tragic, twisted and destructive. Even in vindication it is still tragic.

On Apr 7, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Steve Hackett <thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk<mailto:thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk>> wrote:

Has he been found guilty then? Sounds like it..

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Apr 2016, at 21:38, Paul Owens <powens at gmail.com<mailto:powens at gmail.com>> wrote:

I've seen Swans a couple of times in the last few years and they've been incredible but the whole Gira-raping-a-prot?g? thing has put me off them. I think the fact that Thor and Norman et al are sticking with him says a lot about Gira as a man but I think I need a bit of time to sort out how I feel about him.

On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 at 21:25 kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com<mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>> wrote:

Some of you may be interested to know that Swans are playing the UK this October-likely the final tour with the current line up- 2 dates at the Islington Assembly hall  which is a little venue so should be a stormer-check SeeTickets. (plus Brighton and oop north)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNFGXXZzEhU

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