[kj] Pylon

Mon Oct 26 15:58:38 EDT 2015

Star Spangled is my second  favourite anyone know where I can get the lyrics to Into The Unknown?
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>From : vassifer at earthlink.net
Date : 26/10/2015 - 19:52 (GMTST)
To : gathering at misera.net
Subject : Re: [kj] Pylon

Finally got my physical copy of the deluxe edition CD today from Grudge…..er Pledge  today,  and a lovely thing it is indeed.

Love that Mike Coles has been given seemingly free reign on the art front (although I still don’t fathom the whole “lyrics are online” thing).

My favorite track remains “Star Spangled” thus far, but you all knew that already.

Alex in NYC

> On Oct 26, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Just to weigh in the mastering dispute. Obviously it's all very subjective, so I'm not offering grand pronouncements or saying anyone's a dribbling idiot. Put the knives away, please!
> 
> I was actually impressed by how much clearer the sound was on Pylon, particularly with the vocals (for reference, I'm basing my assessment on the iTunes version, and listening to it almost exclusively on my iPod through a mid-priced pair of headphones that aren't the best on the market but are substantially better than the tinny £2-a-pair monstrosities). As far as compared to previous KJ albums, I thought it was sharper than the last four. Not as muddy or as thudding as KJ2003 or Hosannas, and a little sharper than the AD tracks I sampled a few days ago. I was actually glad they didn't mute it so heavily in pursuit of 'heaviness'. Jaz's vocals sound better than they have in a while too, and pretty clear. 
> 
> Obviously most of that can be put down to different versions, different equipment and the much-welcomed reduction in cookie monster vocals. I hope there haven't been some problems in mastering or printing of some versions that are reducing some people's enjoyment of this album.
> 
> Jim.
> 
> On Mon, 26/10/15, wessidetempest . <wessidetempest at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon
> To: "The Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Monday, 26 October, 2015, 17:12
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> what I can hear that.  I always pre-order through iTunes
> also and the digital copy from there is clearer. Or better
> defined.  I don't think it's Youth I think it is
> the mastering.
> But with all
> of this being said it is a great album
> And I am glad I held off on ordering
> a vinyl copy
> Chris
> 
>> From:
> planetary at socal.rr.com
>> To:
> gathering at misera.net
>> Date: Mon, 26 Oct
> 2015 08:58:21 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [kj]
> Pylon
>> 
>> Neil Perry
> wrote:
>> 
>> Just read
> these comments on the FB page. I haven't got a proper
> copy yet, but any thoughts? 
>> 
> _________
>> Daren Rasmussen: Got mine a
> day early. Killer f'ing stuff guys, but why do you
> continue to offer such outstanding performances... with
> absolutely horrible mastering? It's so bad it makes my
> hears hurt at times. Like someone scratching their nails on
> a chalkboard. Half the time the vocals are obstructed and
> indecipherable due to the sheer amount of clipping going on.
> C'mon. Fuck, I'll even master your next one for
> free. Can we please get some digital re-releases of the last
> 4 albums with much less hot mastering? Like I said, you
> always deliver KILLER songs and albums. There's no doubt
> about that. But they really do sound like shit.
>> 
>> 
>> James Lollobrigida: Totally agree. I got
> the limited vinyl and it's mastered very flat and
> compressed. Sounds bloody awful frankly. The Pressing is
> terrible too, my Decca won't even track it at all, skips
> about all over the place. This is the ONLY RECORD out of a
> collection of over 1000 that it does this on. It'll play
> on my other turntable but still sounds like shit.
>> 
>> +++++++++++++++
>> 
>> I've mentioned
> this before but my biggest problem with the otherwise solid
> album is the production, specifically the huge amount of
> echo and reverb with a decent bit of autotune slathered on
> Jaz's vocals on most of the songs making it almost
> impossible to understand what he's singing.  That and
> the way Geordie's guitar tone is made to sound as fairly
> generic metal on a lot of tracks.  A good comparison is the
> studio vs live version of Autonomous Zone - the live
> version, Geordie's classic tone really cuts through, the
> album, it sounds like he's playing a Les Paul copy
> through a cheap Boss amp modeling peddleboard straight into
> pro-tools.  "Big Buzz" is probably the biggest
> exception to this - that sound couldn't come from anyone
> else than Geordie.
>> 
>> I will say, at least on the CD the album
> is nowhere near brickwalled as Absolute Dissent and to a
> lesser extent MMXII was.  I'll still awaiting my LPs
> from Pledge so I can't comment on what it sounds like on
> vinyl yet.
>> 
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