[kj] Pylon
Jim Harper
jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Oct 26 14:18:20 EDT 2015
Just to weigh in the mastering dispute. Obviously it's all very subjective, so I'm not offering grand pronouncements or saying anyone's a dribbling idiot. Put the knives away, please!
I was actually impressed by how much clearer the sound was on Pylon, particularly with the vocals (for reference, I'm basing my assessment on the iTunes version, and listening to it almost exclusively on my iPod through a mid-priced pair of headphones that aren't the best on the market but are substantially better than the tinny £2-a-pair monstrosities). As far as compared to previous KJ albums, I thought it was sharper than the last four. Not as muddy or as thudding as KJ2003 or Hosannas, and a little sharper than the AD tracks I sampled a few days ago. I was actually glad they didn't mute it so heavily in pursuit of 'heaviness'. Jaz's vocals sound better than they have in a while too, and pretty clear.
Obviously most of that can be put down to different versions, different equipment and the much-welcomed reduction in cookie monster vocals. I hope there haven't been some problems in mastering or printing of some versions that are reducing some people's enjoyment of this album.
Jim.
On Mon, 26/10/15, wessidetempest . <wessidetempest at hotmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kj] Pylon
To: "The Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Monday, 26 October, 2015, 17:12
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#yiv7418818554 You know
what I can hear that. I always pre-order through iTunes
also and the digital copy from there is clearer. Or better
defined. I don't think it's Youth I think it is
the mastering.
But with all
of this being said it is a great album
And I am glad I held off on ordering
a vinyl copy
Chris
> From:
planetary at socal.rr.com
> To:
gathering at misera.net
> Date: Mon, 26 Oct
2015 08:58:21 -0700
> Subject: Re: [kj]
Pylon
>
> Neil Perry
wrote:
>
> Just read
these comments on the FB page. I haven't got a proper
copy yet, but any thoughts?
>
_________
> Daren Rasmussen: Got mine a
day early. Killer f'ing stuff guys, but why do you
continue to offer such outstanding performances... with
absolutely horrible mastering? It's so bad it makes my
hears hurt at times. Like someone scratching their nails on
a chalkboard. Half the time the vocals are obstructed and
indecipherable due to the sheer amount of clipping going on.
C'mon. Fuck, I'll even master your next one for
free. Can we please get some digital re-releases of the last
4 albums with much less hot mastering? Like I said, you
always deliver KILLER songs and albums. There's no doubt
about that. But they really do sound like shit.
>
>
> James Lollobrigida: Totally agree. I got
the limited vinyl and it's mastered very flat and
compressed. Sounds bloody awful frankly. The Pressing is
terrible too, my Decca won't even track it at all, skips
about all over the place. This is the ONLY RECORD out of a
collection of over 1000 that it does this on. It'll play
on my other turntable but still sounds like shit.
>
> +++++++++++++++
>
> I've mentioned
this before but my biggest problem with the otherwise solid
album is the production, specifically the huge amount of
echo and reverb with a decent bit of autotune slathered on
Jaz's vocals on most of the songs making it almost
impossible to understand what he's singing. That and
the way Geordie's guitar tone is made to sound as fairly
generic metal on a lot of tracks. A good comparison is the
studio vs live version of Autonomous Zone - the live
version, Geordie's classic tone really cuts through, the
album, it sounds like he's playing a Les Paul copy
through a cheap Boss amp modeling peddleboard straight into
pro-tools. "Big Buzz" is probably the biggest
exception to this - that sound couldn't come from anyone
else than Geordie.
>
> I will say, at least on the CD the album
is nowhere near brickwalled as Absolute Dissent and to a
lesser extent MMXII was. I'll still awaiting my LPs
from Pledge so I can't comment on what it sounds like on
vinyl yet.
>
>
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