[kj] 30 years of NIGHT TIME

[Rob Moss]

Strip out the top line in LLB and its chugga Chugga but with a real groove. 

Fall of because. Chug chug chug. 
Chug has always been part of Geordie's sound. 
What may have disappeared here and there are the small melodic flourishes. Arguably the 3-4 notes that make LLB. 

Fact is that all jokers are less effective when they are not operating as a unit. 



> On 9 Mar 2015, at 10:27, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> The question of what each member brings is a complex one. It's tempting to ascribe the metal/industrial influences of post-OTG as Raven's doing, since he was also heavily active in the industrial and metal scenes. However, Pandemonium and Absolute Dissent also showcase the chugga-chugga. I don't think that's Youth's doing. Youth brought the trance and techno elements to the band obviously, but chugga-chugga really isn't his style.
> 
> No, I think there's only one person we can look to for the chugga: Geordie. Obviously it's what gives him the most musical satisfaction at the moment.
> 
> Youth's return has brought new production approaches, most importantly. He's broadening the band's sound, which I feel is very much a good thing. Big Paul fits into the sound perfectly, and maybe he's bringing new artistic considerations too. I liked AD, but it felt like a tentative effort, a way to see if 'it' could still happen. MMXII sounded much more like a band, and I'm hoping the next one continues that progression.
> 
> Ramble, ramble.
> 
> Jim.
> 
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> On Mon, 9/3/15, Nick Scott <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [kj] 30 years of NIGHT TIME
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Monday, 9 March, 2015, 11:01
> 
> Is it a
> more refined sound now that the 'missing pieces' are
> back though Jamie?
> The only
> missing member from the equation was Big Paul.  They went
> through the whole 'chugga-shout' sound throughout
> both Youth as well as Raven as bassist.  
> The refined sound that was developed
> in the early to mid 80s was during Ravens tenure during and
> after Fire Dances.  The metal sound was during both Raven
> and Youth's tenure...so is it Big Paul that also has
> dabbled in metal (albeit with other bands) that is
> attempting to refine the output again?
> 
> 
> On 9 March 2015 at 09:40,
> fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> On 7 Mar 2015, at 13:19,
> jpwhkj--- via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> wrote:
> 
> ….
> from Extremities onwards, that magical combination seems to
> have faded away.  Not entirely - there's been the
> occasional track since - but there's been too much
> growling from Jaz, too much chugging from Geordie, not
> enough of the funky dance ethic, not enough of the guitar
> that sounds like "a thousand orchestras playing at
> once", ..
> Bang on Jamie.They
> got stuck in a metal route of
> "chugga-chugga-SHOOOOOOOUT!”Big Paul and
> Youth - the missing pieces are back, it’s refined the
> sound and is becoming something more akin to Killing Joke of
> yore.Each release with the original line up far
> outshine the last few prior to it and each new release (IMO)
> gets stronger and stronger. Yes there’s still the odd
> chugga-chugga-SHOOOOOOOUT, but presumably they’re to keep
> the chugga-chugga-SHOOOOOOOUT fans of the last few years
> happy?Anyway, I am back to feeling optimistic and
> excited about each new release than
> indifferent.They feel fresh
> again.
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