[kj] 30 years of NIGHT TIME
gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
Sat Mar 7 13:01:45 EST 2015
I suppose for me, it was just another example of one of my favourite
bands kinda losing it in the mid-80's! The Damned, The Stranglers,
Killing Joke, and lesser faves like the Banshees (already losing it for
me), Psychedelic Furs, Splodgenessabounds (joke!)... all started to get
pretty dodgy (with occasional greatness still, but on the whole...). I
most definitely wasn't watching that Killing Joke gig thinking "they've
still got the power, they're just choosing not to use it all".
Interesting point, though for me, it might apply more to Night Time.
With BTATS and the gig, it was just, well "weak" is always the word that
springs to mind. I should give the album another try, though I do
recall being persuaded by this list to give OTG another try a few years
back, and that didn't end well.
Dave in Edinburgh
On 07/03/2015 13:19, jpwhkj--- via Gathering wrote:
> I was desperate to like America & OTG when they came out - it was my
> beloved Joke, who could do no wrong - but no matter how hard I tried...
>
> So when I saw them on those two gigs in May 89 (Manchester & London),
> I was mightily relieved. And Extremities and the associated tour did
> indeed feel like a return to form.
>
> But with hindsight I'm less convinced. Killing Joke in 84/85/86
> seemed to be on an amazing path that combined "strength and beauty",
> and actually from Extremities onwards, that magical combination seems
> to have faded away. Not entirely - there's been the occasional track
> since - but there's been too much growling from Jaz, too much chugging
> from Geordie, not enough of the funky dance ethic, not enough of the
> guitar that sounds like "a thousand orchestras playing at once", not
> enough of Big Paul as the instinctive drumming powerhouse & (I
> suspect) the ideological & intellectual powerhouse behind the band,
> too much of "what I did in my holidays by Jeremy aged 9"...
>
> So maybe it was "strength and beauty destined to decay".
>
> Jamie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gingoblin <gingoblin at easynet.co.uk>
> To: adrianwason <adrianwason at btinternet.com>; A list about all things
> Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 11:43
> Subject: Re: [kj] 30 years of NIGHT TIME
>
> Damn fine fellow? Yeah, musta been me! Oh, blue t-shirt... nope, not
> me! I'm terrible with names, but have met a fair chunk of the
> reprobates on this list over the years.
>
> Actually it might be interesting to hear those songs done live now,
> but at the time it was so weak, particularly compared to the previous
> year (and even more so next to the Extremities tour... what a joyous
> return that was).
>
> As has also been stated, it's true- DEVO can safely use a headless
> bass, but I think that's about it. JJ Burnel... urgh!
>
> Dave in Edinburgh
>
>
> On 06/03/2015 19:43, adrianwason at btinternet.com wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if I've met Dave in Edinburgh, but if he was at the
> the second Forum Gig wearing a blue Revelations shirt he was a
> very fine fellow!
> On the BTATS tour I missed it all(too young!!!!!) but from what
> I've seen-Wow-wish I'd seen it-For The Love Of The
> Masses/Rubicon/SGD/DBD all on the same night, - I would have come
> in my pants so probably just as well!
>
> ----Original message----
> From : vassifer at earthlink.net
> Date : 06/03/2015 - 19:26 (GMTST)
> To : gingoblin at easynet.co.uk, gathering at misera.net
> Cc : jpwhkj at aol.com
> Subject : Re: [kj] 30 years of NIGHT TIME
>
> I remember seeing AC/DC on the FLICK OF THE SWITCH tour, and
> Cliff the bass player was playing a headless bass ... Not
> that anyone was really watching him
> Anyway, but yeah ... Ridiculous things.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:55 AM, gingoblin at easynet.co.uk wrote:
>
> The BTATS tour is still by far the worst time I've seen
> Killing Joke... horrible. I blame it on the 80's. Fucking
> horrible sounding albums abounded around then, and people
> thought playing headless basses was a really good idea!
>
> Each to their own though! (apart from headless basses)
>
> Dave in Edinburgh
>
>
>
>
>
> On 06/03/2015 14:13, jpwhkj--- via Gathering wrote:
>
> They were certainly on blinding form for that tour.
>
> Sanity is one of my all-time favourite KJ tracks.
>
> Jamie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com>
> To: The Gathering ((the band!)) <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 7:45
> Subject: Re: [kj] 30 years of NIGHT TIME
>
> … they’re also a bit cripser. For instance, in Rubicon
> there’s a gorgeous guitar climb in the choruses before
> the ‘we cross the Rubicon’ line I’d never heard in any
> detail.
>
> BTATS, it’s one of my faves. It has a great vibe to it
> and seemed a natural follow on from to Night Time plus
> it was on that tour I first saw them live.
>
>
> On 6 Mar 2015, at 05:20,
> adrianwason at btinternet.com wrote:
>
> there's different BTATS mixes on the 2007 re
> release eg For The Love Of The Masses has an extra
> verse on the end
>
> ----Original message----
> >From : jari.t.pakarinen at gmail.com
> Date : 06/03/2015 - 04:54 (GMTST)
> To : gathering at misera.net
> Subject : Re: [kj] 30 years of NIGHT TIME
>
> Where can the restored mixes of BTATS be found ?
>
>
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