[kj] Lecture Last Night

P West fluke1 at live.co.uk
Mon Jun 22 13:53:33 EDT 2015


Is that really a "Holy mountain ?"It just looks like a regular hill to me .Who says that that mountain is Holy ?Why is that mountain/hill considered to "Holy"?Its like................Making a Mountain about a molehill .Its OK , Making a mountain out of a mole hill .Who needs an explanation ?I thought that it was funny as fukk .

From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 02:14:29 +1200
Subject: Re: [kj] Lecture Last Night

I have attached a pic of the holy mountain - apologies if it breaches any size limits. Calling yourself The Holy Mountain—that’s OTT, even for Jaz.  From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of pssyche23
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2015 12:22 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [kj] Lecture Last Night 

52 shrines & jaz and youth walked the 14 km's between them in barefoot under a full moon - nice to meet you Nick, you summed it up much more succinctly than I ever could - with some of the theories I loosely concur, others I think are not as widespread as some converts think (chemtrails is my bug bear, when provided with visual 'evidence' my own history of staring at aircraft contrails for over 40 of my 50 years gives me a greater authority, I think).  I have attached a pic of the holy mountain - apologies if it breaches any size limits. Ta. Regards, Antoni Sent from my iPhone
On 18 Jun 2015, at 13:09, nicholas fitzpatrick <gasw30 at hotmail.com> wrote:Yes, that's the one. Ta for clarifying.> From: traceymh at icloud.com
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> Is this spiritual pilgrimage called Pradakshima? I have read about this and you have to go to something like 49 different temples in a particular order which helps kill the ego. I would really love to do this, but who am I kidding. I'm in Australia and it's obviously UK only. I plan on going for about 6months and really getting into their culture and staying in small villages. Loved hearing about his talk. Cheers
> Tracey
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> > off, two items of news. Jaz and Geordie want to take 100 Gatherers to India
> > at some point (October next year, I think) to complete a several-day
> > pilgrimage around a holy mountain visiting various temples. I forget the name
> > of the pilgrimage, but it is a well-established Hindu pilgrimage that takes
> > place around a full moon.
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> > you?re on the dole and can?t afford it, we?ll just find a way for you to go?.
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> > him and Geordie wanted to act as ?mentors? to the 100 to help them identify
> > their inner genius. The idea is, IIRC, to then meet at the next full moon in
> > the UK, and then again a year later to see how much life has changed.
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> > night was a game of two halves. The first half was about the New World Order
> > and the various conspiracy-theory spokes that come out of that topic. So we
> > heard that the 100-year-old Rockefeller is at the centre of the NWO and wants
> > to finish his project before he dies. And we heard about FEMA camps, about vapour
> > trails dropping nano worms, control of population through food supply, and fluoride
> > in the water?.
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> > it was moderately engaging in places, when the break came and I turned around
> > to see that my two pals (who aren?t fans) had left early; I wasn?t surprised.
> > You had to be very sympathetic to Jaz to sit through non-sourced and surely in
> > some cases wildly exaggerated claims. 
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> > example, he spoke of a US senator who did or found something out (can?t
> > remember what it was but it was alarming), but he didn?t name the senator so
> > how can that be verified? Why wouldn?t you name the senator? It just wreaks of
> > pseudo-academic research.
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> > example, this time of exaggeration: he mentioned that a member of KJ was close
> > to Rockefeller and, by implication, has some great looking-hole into the whole
> > conspiracy shebang. 
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> > he?s referring to BPF here? but c?mon, are we seriously expected to believe
> > that BPF and Rockefeller are tight? Are we supposed to believe that
> > Rockefeller, who knows presidents, prime ministers, celebrities and the other
> > four people that run the universe, suddenly, in the very final years of his
> > life, as he?s getting towards 100 and going to die, thinks to himself, ?I know,
> > I?m going to become really close to that guy there, the one who plays drums in
> > a band. He once dusted down the toes of an ancient Buddha sculpture for my
> > Foundation, where he works part-time along with 14,000 other people who I also
> > don?t know. I?m going to let this guy into my inner sanctum and I?m going to
> > tell him everything.? 
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> > bit hard to sum it up as the road he steered through this topic had many turns,
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> > Forgive
> > my somewhat negative review. I?m sure there?s lots I?ve missed. It was as
> > always a great privilege to sit in with Coleman and I think it?s great that he
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